re: Tuberville on inner city teachers: ‘I don’t know whether they can read and write’

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The idea that you need a college degree to teach Kindergarten is ridiculous.

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Its all about classroom management and presentation. Its doesnt require 4-6 years to teach primary and secondary.

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Someone downvoted Constitutional qualifications. Tells you all you need to know about how far they’re willing to take this.

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That post got downvotes because we all know what the original person actually meant when he said "qualified".

Several factors at play here.

Imagine you teach American History for 8th grade at a inner city school. The students read on a 3rd grade level or lower. You have to teach them about the Committees of Correspondence and the Townshend Acts. 1/3 of the class believes that the Earth is flat and that Columbus had no way to get to America . 1/3 wants to rap about the NBA. The other 1/3 just laughs at everyone.
The math teacher next door has to teach them how to divide fractions but half the class only knows the multiplication table up to 6.

There is a shortage of certified teachers and a big shortage of SPED teachers.

Poor counties/parishes pay way lower than the big city parishes/counties. The best naturally gravitate to where the most money is. Science and math teachers don't last long because they can make more in private industry.

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There are teachers teaching who aren’t qualified to teach. Whether that’s due to staffing shortages or pathetically-easy qualification standards,

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Teaching is not respected, they're not supported by their administrators, they're blamed for everything, and in some instances they're in physical danger. You can argue with the premise that they're underpaid, but the fact is they're not paid enough to attract the kind of talent we claim to want. So you get the unqualified, along with a few idealists who really feel it's their calling--until they get disillusioned and burned out.

Why teach middle school math when you can be an accountant, make more money, and put up with a lot less bullshite?

If you paid teachers a competitive salary with other professions AND insulated them from batshit parents, self serving administrators and unmotivated/violent students. If you removed disruptive students from the classroom setting and allowed teachers to teach the kids who want to learn. Then you'd attract the kind of teachers you say you want and get the results you say you want.


Disclaimer, not a teacher, not involved in the educational establishment at all. Just an observer.

Politically, not a good thing to say. But in fairness, who here is familiar with the Bham city school system and the clowns running it?

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Tuberville might be a political mouthpiece trying to rile up a base, but his seemingly-hyperbolic claim is probably closer to the truth than not.

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Depends if you take Tubberville serious or not. If he's being honest, and wants to genuinely fix the problem, maybe we should.

He does have a point.

My son's attended the best school in this area, & top 3 in the state. They hired & fired a guy that was a bum. This was not due to lack of background, it was due to lack of bodies during the covid bs.

If it affected a quality school like this, imagine what it has done to the public schools.

This is the same guy who in 2020 said that the three branches of government were the executive, the legislative, and the senate.
He was concerned the democrats would be in control of all three.

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Tuberville

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tubs don't give a frick

He’s not wrong but inner city teachers are pretty much just a combination of baby sitters and mall cops. Very little actual teaching going on because they’re too busy keeping the kids from killing each other.