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Tuberville on inner city teachers: ‘I don’t know whether they can read and write’

Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:22 pm
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18411 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:22 pm
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“The COVID really brought it out how bad our schools are and how bad our teachers are, in the inner city. Most of them in the inner city, I don’t know how they got degrees,” Tuberville said. “I don’t know whether they can read and write. And they want a raise. They want less time to work, less time in school. It’s just, we’ve ruined work ethic in this country. We don’t work at it anymore. We push an easy life.”

Tuberville cited a published report that 23 Baltimore City schools had no students who tested proficient in math.

“If you can’t read and if you can’t write, you can’t live in a country like this and not have somebody help you make it through life, which is what a lot of this government wants,” Tuberville said.


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I brought this here instead of PT to (hopefully) shift the conversation from Tuberville’s political stance to the reality of many areas of public education. The Baltimore report is damning for student performance, but Tuberville’s questioning of the teachers brings up an often ignored aspect of schools.

There are teachers teaching who aren’t qualified to teach. Whether that’s due to staffing shortages or pathetically-easy qualification standards, the fact is, we will struggle to fix educational problems if the teachers teaching don’t know what they’re even doing. That’s not to say they’re too “political” in the classroom. Many will lean on progressivism infiltrating the classroom, but that’s not even half the issue. At least an English teacher with alternative pronouns knows what a pronoun is.

It reminds me of a few years ago when I attended a state professional development workshop in Alabama. Having taught in affluent suburbs of Birmingham, I never really understood the negative labels of Alabama’s education rankings. Seemed odd to me that we were dead last when teachers I knew were intelligent, hard working people who produced high quality students that went off to college to accomplish great things. But then I met teachers from around the state. Rural, poor areas of the state. There was a level of dumb associated with them that I wasn’t prepared for. I was flabbergasted that they were in a classroom. They didn’t understand basic aspects of their content, and yet they were in charge of teaching students.

Tuberville might be a political mouthpiece trying to rile up a base, but his seemingly-hyperbolic claim is probably closer to the truth than not.
Posted by A Smoke Break
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2018
2063 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:25 pm to
Are we talking inner city Baltimore as in maryland?

Here's the smartest child in baltimore: LINK


fricking einstein couldn't teach these kids math
This post was edited on 5/26/23 at 1:26 pm
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:26 pm to
He brings up an important question but I’d like to know what qualifies Tuberville for his job.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42619 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:26 pm to
Kinda racist but he does have a point
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12936 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:26 pm to
No lies detected.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7718 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:27 pm to
Same thing that qualifies people like Feinstein, Fetterman, Sanders, etc. Got it?
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:28 pm to
I met Tubbs in Iraq, he was doing a USO tour with Mack Brown and Bob Davie.

I would be shocked if Tubbs can read and write at a 6th grade level.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8330 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:28 pm to
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There are teachers teaching who aren’t qualified to teach.
This is true.



But it’s also nowhere near the primary problem in inner city education.
Posted by Auburntiger
BTR area
Member since Mar 2005
13305 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:28 pm to
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but I’d like to know what qualifies Tuberville for his job.


The Constitution sets three qualifications for service in the U.S. Senate: age (at least thirty years of age); U.S. citizenship (at least nine years); and residency in the state a senator represents at time of election.

That is how he is qualified
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422561 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:29 pm to
Teachers matter very little in this equation.

Family values and culture are the big variables.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50305 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:29 pm to
If anyone has been paying attention since the 1980's, none of the stats that were pointed out should surprise you.

Democrats are dumbing down our kids on purpose. It is also how you get leaders that can't speak proper English, don't know where they are, or are pedophiles.

Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
47454 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:30 pm to
Tuberville, whether you agree or not, hurt the GOP with these comments. Teachers are a large voting bloc and this was a dumb comment to make publicly. Inner-city teaching is borderline dangerous positions to hold. There are a lot of great teachers out there who would never do the job if they had to do them in these schools. So, quite often, the best teachers go to the best districts leaving new teachers and the not-as-good ones left to get jobs at bad districts. But, to suggest they cannot read and write is just not a good look.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260576 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:30 pm to
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But it’s also nowhere near the primary problem in inner city education.


truth

You can't educate those who do not value education. We spend too much money in doing so.
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
8591 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:30 pm to
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Kinda racist but he does have a point

Facts can’t be racist
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422561 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:31 pm to
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. Teachers are a large voting bloc and this was a dumb comment to make publicly. Inner-city teaching is borderline dangerous positions to hold.

I imagine the rate of inner city teachers voting non-DEM is somewhere around 0.5%, if not lower
This post was edited on 5/26/23 at 1:32 pm
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
11711 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:32 pm to
What’s racist about it’s the truth. And more people need to say it out loud


She lucky she ain’t my daughter
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
53807 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:32 pm to
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Kinda racist but he does have a point


Did he mention race? If he did, I missed it. If the data shows that this is heavily tilted toward one race, stop yelling “racism” and look at the real reasons that it is.
Posted by ArmyVet
Member since Mar 2020
98 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:32 pm to
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Kinda racist but he does have a point


That is blatant racism that we have come to expect from the right. They are all racist and homophobic......full of hate.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:32 pm to
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Teachers matter very little in this equation.

Family values and culture are the big variables.


Yeah, you could drop these kids in the best schools in the country and it wouldn't make a big difference because their parents don't care.

It's not like the teachers here are being outpaced by the students. The only thing these people are really trying to do is look for teachers who can hold a classroom full of neglected children together for 45 minutes at a time. That's pretty much the only bar.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260576 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:32 pm to
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Teachers are a large voting bloc and this was a dumb comment to make publicly.


I imagine his comment cost republicans zero votes.

The people he offended vote Dem exclusively.
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