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re: Tropical Storm Karen - Low End Gulf Threat

Posted on 9/23/19 at 4:22 am to
Posted by MoneyShot
Member since Jan 2013
4319 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 4:22 am to
It's more of the middle of the screen but it's clearly still there at the end of the gif.
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
15656 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 4:34 am to
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It's more of the middle of the screen but it's clearly still there at the end of the gif.
ok, then lower middle of the screen- I don’t know about ‘clearly’ but it is barely there- there is a small area of convention trying to recover but for a few frames there was absolutely nothing.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25852 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 4:51 am to
quote:

No kidding, it going to make a loop south?


I have it on good authority it will indeed.

Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61860 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 5:53 am to
Are we all gonna die or not? I just need to know as soon as possible


Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39241 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 6:12 am to
In before UF cancelling the LSU game.

In order for this to get into the gulf, some of the models are showing it coming by my house. Who do I need to speak with to cancel this?
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51386 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 6:22 am to
quote:

Tropical Storm Karen


Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 6:53 am to
quote:

Are we all gonna die or not? I just need to know as soon as possible

Sooner are later.
Some sooner than others
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
14280 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 7:19 am to
This isn’t even a system right now and is probably going to fall apart when it gets North. The naming of these storms is getting out of hand.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41201 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:03 am to
I've never wished a hurricane or tropical storm on anyone before, but we could REALLY use the rain here in Alabama.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
25234 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:13 am to
Everything is turning into dust around here
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21276 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:14 am to
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I've never wished a hurricane or tropical storm on anyone before, but we could REALLY use the rain here in Alabama


Then hope it fricking rains soon, not come with a hurricane. This is the second Gump state jackass who has come in wishing for a hurricane.


"I don't care if I don't have electricity for a week, my roof gets blown off, and I have to pick up branches for a week. At least my yard will be watered finally. My wife/sister stuck the water hose where it doesn't belong again, and I told her that was the last time I was buying one."
This post was edited on 9/23/19 at 8:17 am
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
6914 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:18 am to
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:28 am to
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We need you Karen in Alabama. We are dry AF.




X 1000
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19367 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:35 am to
quote:

Tropical Storm Karen


fricking Karen
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85137 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:37 am to
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This isn’t even a system right now and is probably going to fall apart when it gets North. The naming of these storms is getting out of hand.


It used to be. Then shear happened.

It doesn't mean it's gone away forever, nor does it mean it was wrong initially.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42883 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:38 am to
Yeah, for Alabama it’d be nice to have a Tropical Storm that is just a big rainmaker. We need the rain, and I’m not normally one to wish for rain.
This post was edited on 9/23/19 at 8:39 am
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 9:12 am to
Snow is projected in Canada this week so it's very possible a strong cold front makes it far south but we'll see. Would be nice.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 9:15 am to
Obligatory at least 1 ensemble model going into the pooper of New Orleans no matter what. They even had an ensemble model from Jerry going into NO when every other model had it going out to sea. I kid you not it's an inside joke at this point.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19821 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 9:59 am to


Tropical Storm Karen Discussion Number 6
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL122019
1100 AM AST Mon Sep 23 2019

Although deep convection has recently developed near the low-level
swirl seen in early morning visible satellite imagery, the Air Force
Reserve reconnaissance aircraft that has been investigating Karen
has had difficultly finding a closed surface circulation. It is
possible that a center reformation will occur near the new
convection, so the system is still being classified as a tropical
cyclone for now. The aircraft has found believable SFMR winds of
30-35 kt over the eastern portion of the system, which still
supports an initial intensity of 35 kt. Given the current structure
of Karen and moderate to strong northeasterly shear that should
remain over the storm for the next 24 hours, no change in strength
is anticipated during that time. It is also possible that Karen
could degenerate into an open wave, if it has not done so already.
Regardless of whether or not Karen is a tropical cyclone when it
passes near Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands, the system is likely
to produce tropical-storm-force winds in squalls and heavy rainfall
over those areas. After that time, upper-level winds are forecast
to become more conducive for intensification, and the NHC forecast
calls for gradual strengthening like most of the typically reliable
intensity guidance, however, the confidence in this portion of the
intensity forecast is low.

The initial motion estimate is 335/10 kt. Despite the overall lack
of organization of the system, the track guidance is still in good
agreement on Karen turning northward tonight or early Tuesday into
a weakness in the ridge over the western Atlantic caused by
Tropical Storm Jerry to its north. After 72 hours, a deep-layer
ridge is forecast to build over the southeastern United States and
western Atlantic which should slow Karen's northward progress and
could cause the system to essentially stall over the western
Atlantic by the end of the period. The new NHC track forecast is
again close to the previous advisory, and is near the consensus
aids through 96 h. At 120 h, the NHC forecast is south of the
consensus models in deference to the more equatorward position
shown by the ECMWF, but the spread of the guidance by that time
is quite large, and confidence in the track forecast at days 4
and 5 is quite low.


Key Messages:

1. Regardless of Karen's status as a tropical cyclone, this system
is expected to bring tropical-storm-force winds, heavy rainfall,
flash floods and mudslides to Puerto Rico and the U.S. and British
Virgin Islands on Tuesday, where a tropical storm warning is
in effect.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 23/1500Z 14.9N 64.8W 35 KT 40 MPH
12H 24/0000Z 16.0N 65.3W 35 KT 40 MPH
24H 24/1200Z 17.7N 65.8W 35 KT 40 MPH
36H 25/0000Z 19.6N 65.9W 35 KT 40 MPH
48H 25/1200Z 21.9N 65.7W 40 KT 45 MPH
72H 26/1200Z 25.6N 65.3W 45 KT 50 MPH
96H 27/1200Z 27.0N 65.8W 50 KT 60 MPH
120H 28/1200Z 27.0N 67.0W 60 KT 70 MPH

$$
Forecaster Brown

Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19821 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:23 am to
Looking at the overnight guidance and the 00z Euro is a pretty big outlier (dashed line) but the NHC mentioned in the 11:00 am discussion that they are giving it some credit.



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