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re: Trade schools need to be promoted more in society
Posted on 4/29/18 at 5:50 pm to texag7
Posted on 4/29/18 at 5:50 pm to texag7
I think every state has a community college system. If we added "trade school" skills programs and degrees and funded them as we do other public education levels, we should be able to get far more interest and participation from young people.
This would diminish the stigma of trade school and give a strong option to young people who might be less than enthusiastic about a liberal arts eductation but still want to advance their skills. One of the most important responsibilities of every republic is to educate its population. To do this efficiently, more options can get more students to continue their educations after high school.
This would diminish the stigma of trade school and give a strong option to young people who might be less than enthusiastic about a liberal arts eductation but still want to advance their skills. One of the most important responsibilities of every republic is to educate its population. To do this efficiently, more options can get more students to continue their educations after high school.
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Posted on 4/29/18 at 5:57 pm to texag7
There was a 10 page thread on this topic on Friday...
Posted on 4/29/18 at 5:58 pm to texag7
NF
Posted on 4/29/18 at 5:59 pm to texag7
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texag7
So what are you doing to remedy this issue?
Posted on 4/29/18 at 6:02 pm to texag7
Most states have HS level vocational schools that are a public school option. The argument to me is like someone saying they should design something that gets water off your car windshield.
Thinking back, I don’t remember Louisiana having them but I also don’t remember other states that teach farming and construction in college.
Thinking back, I don’t remember Louisiana having them but I also don’t remember other states that teach farming and construction in college.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 6:04 pm to texag7
Agree, my first year out of trade school i cleared 90k. Too bad the telecommunications industry took a nose dive 3 years later.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 6:06 pm to Jp1LSU
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Most states have HS level vocational schools that are a public school option. The argument to me is like someone saying they should design something that gets water off your car windshield.
Thinking back, I don’t remember Louisiana having them but I also don’t remember other states that teach farming and construction in college.
Sure there are options for vocational training, but availability isn’t the problem.
The problem is that people tend to see them as options for people who lack the ability to get into 4 year colleges. I think the OP’s point is that the stigma around trade schools needs to die and they need to be seen as viable alternatives to college.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 6:14 pm to dcrews
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So what are you doing to remedy this issue?
Nothing currently but if I could make a difference I would
Posted on 4/29/18 at 6:14 pm to texag7
Getting a degree at a 2 year tech school is way more valuable than about 90% of Bachelor of Arts degrees, IMO.
And probably a fair number of Bachelor of Science degrees, too.
And probably a fair number of Bachelor of Science degrees, too.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 6:16 pm to texag7
What four morons downvoted this?
This post was edited on 4/29/18 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 4/29/18 at 6:16 pm to texag7
quote:I couldn't agree more & that is the impetus behind the Career Academy.
We need to focus on steering kids who are more mechanically minded and hands on into trade schools
quote:It's like a trade school for high school aged students. We have over 40 Career Academies in Georgia with over 100 different career pathways. Students are exposed to different career pathways and are able to explore alternative options for post-graduation rather than the more traditional college route. A few of our students get hired straight out of school and enter the workforce making a livable wage.
Career academies are designed to prepare students for both college and careers. They are schools within schools that link students with peers, teachers, and community partners in a structured environment that fosters academic success.
Here's an article about a school in Viginia that has the type of focus you are looking for.
USA Today
Posted on 4/29/18 at 6:17 pm to texag7
Agree
My company has an apprenticeship program for diesel/heavy equipment mechanics. Pay for all the schooling/ 8,000.00 in new tools, 1st year part time pay and full benefits. Second year on full time pay and become a certified mechanic by year four with no debt. These new mechanics are making approximately 60-70K with some overtime, and journeymen are making six figures with overtime. starting with that pay kind of pay with a 401K, company match, some profit sharing. Some significant savings by the time they reach 50.
Company also has education reimbursement so if those mechanics want to earn a four year degree to help move into management they can do it, debt free. They also have a trade to always fall back on. Demand is high.
My company has an apprenticeship program for diesel/heavy equipment mechanics. Pay for all the schooling/ 8,000.00 in new tools, 1st year part time pay and full benefits. Second year on full time pay and become a certified mechanic by year four with no debt. These new mechanics are making approximately 60-70K with some overtime, and journeymen are making six figures with overtime. starting with that pay kind of pay with a 401K, company match, some profit sharing. Some significant savings by the time they reach 50.
Company also has education reimbursement so if those mechanics want to earn a four year degree to help move into management they can do it, debt free. They also have a trade to always fall back on. Demand is high.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 6:41 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
The sad fact is that too many people in political power do not want a successful blue collar work force. They would rather keep people poor, dumb and dependent on them instead of helping them better their circumstance.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 6:45 pm to texag7
The mindset that needs to be changed is that the $40K white collar job is more prestigious than the 70K blue collar job.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 6:48 pm to texag7
My family owns 4 trade schools with a total of about 2500 students. There is never a shortage of students.
This post was edited on 4/29/18 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 4/29/18 at 6:55 pm to texag7
So did you graduate high school and go to a trade school? Or did you go to one of those big colleges that offer worthless degree programs?
We had this exact discussion a few days ago. Everyone agrees, but most of the people on here wouldn't actually go to a trade school over college, and they especially don't want their kids doing that.
We had this exact discussion a few days ago. Everyone agrees, but most of the people on here wouldn't actually go to a trade school over college, and they especially don't want their kids doing that.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 6:59 pm to Ostrich
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The mindset that needs to be changed is that the $40K white collar job is more prestigious than the 70K blue collar job
Well when you factor in benefits and longevity it probably is.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 7:05 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:
Well when you factor in benefits and longevity it probably is.
That's fair, and should be considered when picking a trade
Posted on 4/29/18 at 7:06 pm to texag7
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Trade schools need to be promoted more in society
Without a doubt. After finishing my B.S. degree, I wound up (later on) going to a trade school to get my PTEC degree. I wanted to see what it was like to be in Ops and have truck nuts hanging from my Duramax powered Chevy.
Just kidding on the truck nuts. Not at all kidding on the trade school and how valuable they are to society (and me).
My B.S. degree did very little for me, but my trade school degree opened up doors that normally would have been closed.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 7:13 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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most of the people on here wouldn't actually go to a trade school over college, and they especially don't want their kids doing that
This is the problem.
I have a 22 yo brother that is about to graduate from LSU in kinesiology. He has no Hope's of getting employed in his field. He isn't even close to getting into a professional school with his GPA.
I offered him free living arrangements and can guarantee him a job right out of trade school if he goes for anything applicable in commercial construction.
His response?
"I dont want to wear a tool belt for the rest of my life."
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