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re: Trade schools need to be promoted more in society

Posted on 4/29/18 at 10:13 pm to
Posted by Relham10
Ridge
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Posted on 4/29/18 at 10:13 pm to
Sounds look a good idea to me too
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 4/29/18 at 10:14 pm to
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For practical purposes, the stats were based on earnings


Do you think earnings and compensation are the same thing?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/29/18 at 10:16 pm to
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Do you think earnings and compensation are the same thing?


No, however earnings do include all income.

Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/29/18 at 10:20 pm to
Electrician median pay is $54,110 according to google.

That's not great for a trade.

Plenty of careers with better pay and better advancement opportunity that require less/no schooling
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/29/18 at 10:26 pm to
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That's not great for a trade.



Union scale starts more than 30/hr.

The one area unions excel is journeymen for various trades.

Labor stats usually paint with a broad brush (like Banker) when looking at pay and breaking down categories. The guy going to Devry and working in a factory isn't exactly as skilled as journeymen
This post was edited on 4/29/18 at 10:28 pm
Posted by pelicanpride
Houston
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Posted on 4/29/18 at 10:28 pm to
Just saw an article about this a few days ago. LINK

I went to college but come from a working class background. People who go to college do better on average, but that doesn’t mean it is the right fit for everyone. Some kids just want to work with their hands.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/29/18 at 10:36 pm to
A union journeyman equipment operator makes the same with little or no schooling. A union journeyman electrical/telecommunication lineworker makes about 50 an hour with no schooling.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/29/18 at 10:37 pm to
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but that doesn’t mean it is the right fit for everyone.


Agree

We need more skilled workers, not just workers. I think anyone who invests time learning a subject or skill will have a better quality of life than those who don't. High school grads don't have much room for opportunity without enhancing themselves either academically ot occupationally.

In the end, find something that's a good fit for you
Posted by WestlakeTiger
San Antonio, Tejas
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/29/18 at 11:58 pm to
Exactly why I am doing both. Aeronautical engineering and Electrician trade training
Posted by Tigerdev
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Posted on 4/29/18 at 11:58 pm to
For once I agree with you. Very common in Europe.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
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Posted on 4/30/18 at 12:01 am to
No parent (worth a damn) is telling their kid to forget about college in today's world.

Just isn't going to happen.
Posted by EA6B
TX
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Posted on 4/30/18 at 12:16 am to
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No parent (worth a damn) is telling their kid to forget about college in today's world. Just isn't going to happen.


Then a lot of parents are doing their child a disservice. Most high school graduates have a GPA less than 3.0, have not taken mathematics of any rigor, have little command of the English language, read at a grade school level, and have standardized test scores that show they are not prepared to attend college. They will go to college anyway and become part of the 60% that start college, and never finish. Their parents should have told them to forget about college and learn a skill that will pay the bills if they want have a chance of surviving in today's world.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/30/18 at 12:17 am to
I think the idea is that you don't have to be a genius to do it and you can make a very nice living.
I encourage kids to embrace STEM fields myself...but I think trade school is more profitable than the vast majority of soft subjects in school.
Posted by JOJO Hammer
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Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:37 am to
But everyone deserves to go to college and live the college experience.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
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79874 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:38 am to
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Then a lot of parents are doing their child a disservice. Most high school graduates have a GPA less than 3.0, have not taken mathematics of any rigor, have little command of the English language, read at a grade school level, and have standardized test scores that show they are not prepared to attend college. They will go to college anyway and become part of the 60% that start college, and never finish. Their parents should have told them to forget about college and learn a skill that will pay the bills if they want have a chance of surviving in today's world.


Every single bit of this us true.

Doesn't change the social stigma that is put on those kids, and their parents, when they elect not to go to college.
Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 4/30/18 at 8:40 am to
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you people


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