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re: Today is the 17 year anniversary of the 'Killdozer'
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:46 am to Sebastian Gorka
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:46 am to Sebastian Gorka
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Glad the stupid bastard is dead.
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Sebastian Gorka
Name most certainly does not check out
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:49 am to baldona
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Again, he bought the land for $42,000 and was offered $250,000 for it. He could have sold and moved his business.
But he didn't want to. Just because he could have, doesn't mean he wanted to. Imagine having an established business and then being forced to relocate it because of shady dealing. I don't get why what is hard to understand. Also, he got a deal on that land due to a bank foreclosure. He bought it at auction. Who is to say the $250K would have been enough to re-establish somewhere else?
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let’s not act like location was a big deal.
It would be to me if my business had already been established and people knew where to find me. Location is everything to many businesses.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:49 am to TutHillTiger
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Could have a made a mint selling those lol
They would have the materials available for him in jail?
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:50 am to CocomoLSU
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No, they think he was just shooting at them to deter, not to kill. :rolleyes
As mentioned earlier, he said as much in one of the audio tapes he left behind.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:52 am to stout
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As mentioned earlier, he said as much in one of the audio tapes he left behind.
Saying you don't want to hurt anybody, and then doing things that can literally do just that, don't go together.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:53 am to CocomoLSU
Or maybe he planned not to hurt anyone and his plan worked to perfection.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:53 am to LSUwag
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This needs to happen all over America.
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LSUwag
Example #1 of someone who would support killdozer yet would condemn McVay. Another wanna be "badass"
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:54 am to lsu777
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But the intent of killdozer, Andrew stack(flew plane into irs building) and OKC was the same....to declare war on the government.
Killdozer and stack are declared heros and TM is a physcopath(he was). I just think it's ironic.
Kinda like a clandestine group out of Boston in the 1770s. They plotted against the government and destroyed threw property of a quasi government corporation into Boston harbor. All in part of declaring war on the government of this country at the time.
For some reason people throughout history have identified with people fighting government without injuring others
Shocking I know
This post was edited on 6/4/21 at 9:56 am
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:55 am to stout
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Or maybe he planned not to hurt anyone and his plan worked to perfection.
Due to things out of his control, I agree. He's lucky buildings were vacated, tanks didn't explode, bullets didn't hurt people, etc. It could've been a lot worse.
And like someone mentioned, he destroyed more than just "people who hurt him."
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:00 am to CocomoLSU
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tanks didn't explode
Look, it took 2,750 tons of ammonium nitrate in Beirut a few years ago to cause a blast that blew out windows 1.5 miles away. Those propane tanks were in no danger of destroying the nursing home a half-mile away.
This post was edited on 6/4/21 at 10:01 am
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:10 am to stout
He knows it’s a bullshite Karen take, but it’s all he has to cling to in order to demonize Heemeyer.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:13 am to RollTide1987
quote:Still. In an age when media foams at the mouth to report shite like this, and drag it on for days, most people knew nothing about it. Not everyone cares when an old politician dies. People who liked him do, but to everyone else, it's just another celebrity death.
This happened quite literally on the same day that Ronald Reagan died.
Intentional or not, a guy like this scares the shite out of the ruling class. There's no ban they can pass, no restriction they can make that can stop people from doing things like this when they are screwed by the government, especially corrupt local yokel city councils that don't have military attack dogs to protect them.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:17 am to stout
I’ll just saying doing the damage he did and not killing anyone was not just sheer luck. He clearly tried to not kill people while inflicting maximum property damage.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:19 am to blueboy
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Intentional or not, a guy like this scares the shite out of the ruling class. There's no ban they can pass, no restriction they can make that can stop people from doing things like this when they are screwed by the government, especially corrupt local yokel city councils that don't have military attack dogs to protect them.
Yup. Where there’s a will, there’s a way. So the government does its best to break the will of the people.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:22 am to stout
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Look, it took 2,750 tons of ammonium nitrate in Beirut a few years ago to cause a blast that blew out windows 1.5 miles away. Those propane tanks were in no danger of destroying the nursing home a half-mile away.
I agree, and have said that already. I am saying shooting a tank can hurt anybody in the vicinity, and he was shooting at tanks.
I'm not talking about the validity of the "half-mile" estimate. Obviously that was extreme.
But saying you don't want to hurt anybody and then shooting at people and propane tanks don't go together. Yes, thankfully nobody was killed. That's great. And I hope it was intentional. But his actions say otherwise, and IMO he got lucky that nobody was seriously hurt or killed. We can disagree, I'm fine with that.
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He knows it’s a bullshite Karen take, but it’s all he has to cling to in order to demonize Heemeyer.
Oh frick off. That's incredibly stupid.
This post was edited on 6/4/21 at 10:24 am
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:22 am to blueboy
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In an age when media foams at the mouth to report shite like this, and drag it on for days, most people knew nothing about it.
Social media wasn't even in its infancy at the time. Most people had flip phones and many of those weren't even capable of sending text messages. We got our news from the national media outlets. Most of the world's attention was focused on France as most of the world's most powerful leaders were there celebrating the 60th anniversary of the D-Day landings. Also, as mentioned previously, Reagan died that same day. People were also still reeling from the Khobar massacre, carried out by Al-Qaeda, that had left 22 people dead in Saudi Arabia. Terrorism was all the rage in those days because we were bogged down in Iraq at the time fighting terrorist insurgents.
At any other time the story of the Killdozer would have been front page news all over America. However, there was just too much shite going on at the time.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:25 am to blueboy
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Still. In an age when media foams at the mouth to report shite like this, and drag it on for days, most people knew nothing about it.
Which is weird because I vividly remember news coverage about it. Not for weeks or maybe even days, but I remember seeing the footage of him driving over and through all kinds of shite and being amazed by it. I'm honestly surprised more people don't remember it (even despite Reagan dying).
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:35 am to stout
quote:I'm not sure it would be. Moving a machine shop, complete with heavy machinery and a bulldozer, is not cheap.
Who is to say the $250K would have been enough to re-establish somewhere else?
Even if it was, his refusal to take their deal doesn't make the corrupt dealings his fault.
What kind of meathead attitude is that?
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:37 am to CocomoLSU
quote:No. Stout is right. He had all the time in the world to take aim and actually shoot the police. They were often in the open, very close to him, and not behind any cover.
Saying you don't want to hurt anybody, and then doing things that can literally do just that, don't go together.
If he wanted to kill people, he would have.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:38 am to lsu777
quote:Your comparison hasn't stopped being stupid, dude.
Example #1 of someone who would support killdozer yet would condemn McVay. Another wanna be "badass"
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