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re: Today is the 17 year anniversary of the 'Killdozer'

Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:13 am to
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:13 am to
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I find it funny that this loony bin character is lauded for his illegal activities but immigrants illegally entering the country are evil.


I find it funny how you think there is a correlation between these two.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124591 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:13 am to
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1.) city required him to tap into city sewer for $80,000



Oh, you mean after the concrete plant broke his old one?

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2.) he lost a lawsuit against city zoning that allowed a business to expand that removed his easiest path from his home to his business due to the new expansion


And then they wouldn’t allow him to build, with his own money, a new access road, (which is the whole reason he bought the dozer in the first place)
Essentially finishing off his business.


Posted by canyon
Member since Dec 2003
18507 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:14 am to
where did he bulldoze you?
Posted by Sebastian Gorka
Member since Jun 2021
159 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:17 am to
He went out like a coward by commiting suicide. The world is better off without trash like he in it.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114063 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:17 am to
I watched a documentary on this awhile back, I never heard about it until watching it.

It might not have been the best thing to do.. But I understand. If I recall he moved into the town so he wasn't part of the "good ole boy" way of politics which was pretty much the reason they pretty much harassed him.

If small town politicians play small town politics with the wrong people, things like this happen.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:18 am to
This would have been national news had Reagan not died around the same time. I hadn't heard of this incident before until I watched "Tread" on Netflix.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31476 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:18 am to
I find it funny that he is lauded as a hero specifically because he didn't kill anyone and Timothy McVey is considered a physcopath.

Both essentially declared war on the government because they felt the government declared war on them first. Only differences was one was local and one was federal.

I also find it funny that killdozer is held up as a hero by those that hate government but Mcvay is shunned.

Not saying I support or do not support actions of either. I just find it ironic.

Also find it ironic those on the poliboard that want to take up arms against the government, yet consider mcvay a nut job. Along with supporting the actions in Waco.

Both the PT and OT are full of hypocritical assholes.(not talking about you stout, just general observation)
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
32025 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:20 am to
I wonder what he would have done as a result of COVID shut downs. The shocking thing to me is that there hasn’t been an issue like this this year in places like California or Michigan.
Posted by Jimmy2shoes
The South
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:20 am to
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Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56487 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:20 am to
We need to have a killdozer anniversary celebration every year. The guy was a great American, the kind of man who, though misguided, scares the shite out of the ruling class.
Posted by Blaeke
Member since Dec 2016
1020 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:23 am to
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I find it funny that he is lauded as a hero specifically because he didn't kill anyone and Timothy McVey is considered a physcopath.

Both essentially declared war on the government because they felt the government declared war on them first. Only differences was one was local and one was federal.

I also find it funny that killdozer is held up as a hero by those that hate government but Mcvay is shunned.

Not saying I support or do not support actions of either. I just find it ironic.

Also find it ironic those on the poliboard that want to take up arms against the government, yet consider mcvay a nut job. Along with supporting the actions in Waco.

Both the PT and OT are full of hypocritical a-holes.(not talking about you stout, just general observation


There is the whole killing children difference between the two.
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:24 am to
I think some views of McVeigh have shifted over the years due to the internet and current happenings. I have seen some people comment that McVeigh was ahead of his time after reading his manifesto. In 1995 life was pretty good and people were pretty obtuse and trusting in the media and Government. We had also never really experienced domestic terrorism like that before so it was easy to condemn him. For the record, I still think McVeigh is a terrorist and my views on that will never change.

I get what you are saying, though, and I even said earlier that had Heemeyer killed anyone, then he would be viewed differently.
This post was edited on 6/4/21 at 9:27 am
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62904 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:24 am to
There is a busy intersection in Tuscaloosa that once had a gas station on the corner. The city added a turn lane and due to newer EPA restrictions, it effectively shut down this guy's gas station for good. He's been pissed off at city council for various reasons, but the end result is there sits a boarded up gas station eyesore right at the busiest intersection in town.
Would not be surprised if this guy built a killdozer.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124591 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:25 am to
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I find it funny that he is lauded as a hero specifically because he didn't kill anyone and Timothy McVey is considered a physcopath




I’ve see some stupid takes but...woof.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:26 am to
McVeigh purposefully went out of his way to kill people. That's the big difference. He stated this in interviews. He had originally wanted to assassinate Janet Reno but then thought it would be easier to make his point by blowing up a building. Initially he had planned to blow up a federal building at night while it was unoccupied but then decided that killing people would do a better job of getting his point across. It's also difficult to have any kind of sympathy for McVeigh because he blew up a daycare center inside the Murrah Building and it was filled with innocent children.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167518 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:26 am to
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The shocking thing to me is that there hasn’t been an issue like this this year in places like California or Michigan.



That's part of what propelled him to a folk hero among many. He did what no one else has the balls to do. He had nothing left to lose he felt like and dealt with it. I am sure plenty of people over the past year have wanted to do the same but had no means or mental state to do so.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20538 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:27 am to
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It goes way beyond that.


I will, but I read multiple articles on this and it all appears pretty normal.

He also bought the land for $42,000 and was offered $250,000 for it then decided that wasn’t enough so he upped the price to $375,000 then again to $1 mil? It sounds like a normal person could have sold for a profit, cut their losses, and moved on.
Posted by canyon
Member since Dec 2003
18507 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:27 am to
So had he gone out differently you would be ok with it?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31476 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:28 am to
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It's also difficult to have any kind of sympathy for McVeigh because he blew up a daycare center inside the Murrah Building and it was filled with innocent children.


No doubt, I just find it ironic that one is considered a hero to some when essentially the intentions where the same....go to war with the government.
Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
11400 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:28 am to
this is exactly the hero we needed in the year of gov overreach
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