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re: Titanic tourist submarine goes missing

Posted on 6/22/23 at 11:50 pm to
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 6/22/23 at 11:50 pm to
No. You can't dial 1-800-USSDALLAS from your vhf radio.

The USN likely knew there was a dive happening, heard the pop from a dozen different earphones, triangulated the location, and put 2 and 2 together in about 2 or 3 minutes.

Along with the OT detectives using publicly available land based data.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 6/22/23 at 11:54 pm to
Fun fact- you can't "emergency blow" at these depths. The compressed gas used to blow to ballast tanks would just remain liquid and dissolve in the ballast water due to the high hydrostatic pressure. Your only option is to drop solid ballast weights.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:19 am to
It’s amazing how smart some of you are
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:21 am to
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Gates stated something to the fact that he had serious concerns about the entire operation.


I think that’s called common sense.
Posted by jefffan
Florence- Sumter- Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:21 am to
Could the bangs(if there were any?) have been the ballast weights hitting the sea bed? Or even the Titanic itself?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:34 am to
quote:

Could the bangs(if there were any?) have been the ballast weights hitting the sea bed? Or even the Titanic itself?



I thought the ballast was sand bags.
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
5054 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 2:02 am to
I was watching a live stream last night for a few hours (yes i have no life) with this guy who was a retired US navy submariner and he said the “banging” was just one report that came out that every other outlet picked up and ran with .. he said it could literally have been a million different things causing the banging .
Posted by 308
the backwoods of Mississippi
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 2:39 am to
I feel most badly for that young man that was with his father. From what I've read, the young guy was very reluctant to go on the dive, but wanted to please his father on Father's Day. This was according to the young man's aunt.
So sad.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72433 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:21 am to
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Man I just watched a video for the first time of this thing. Why in the frickin world would you get in that hunk of garbage? You can't even stand up.


Is there a link to this? I'd like to see what it looked like.
Posted by Mr Happy
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:26 am to
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:39 am to
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The theater around this when basically they knew instantly is ridiculous. You also can’t tell me that they didn’t see a ton of bubbles from the air tanks and sub or something coming to the surface a few minutes after. At that point they would’ve known.


I absolutely CAN tell you that. It was nearly 2.5 miles underwater. That's an incredibly far distance underwater where bubbles would have been pushed several different directions from underwater currents. And that's not even taking into consideration what the water temps at that depth could do.

Just because you see bubbles when you're farting in the bathtub doesn't apply to this situation as well.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 5:39 am to
At least you are paying attention.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:02 am to
quote:

Fun fact- you can't "emergency blow" at these depths. The compressed gas used to blow to ballast tanks would just remain liquid and dissolve in the ballast water due to the high hydrostatic pressure. Your only option is to drop solid ballast weights.

Never thought about that. Interesting.

I wonder if that is one of the reasons that military subs operate at depths of less than 2,000 feet.
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
1290 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:23 am to
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No one was suspicious that the debris field appeared just as the air was scheduled to run out?




They almost certainly snuffed it shortly after the 1 hour 45 minute mark when the coms cut out. 4 days of media hand wringing for something already known.




exactly, they even had 3-4 days to make a debris field
why the wait/time lag
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35771 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:42 am to
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Has it occurred to you retards the Navy may not realize what the noise was as soon as they heard it?

No. Because there’s zero chance the Navy didn’t recognize exactly what it was when they heard it.
Posted by Dick Jacket
Member since Nov 2016
1578 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:46 am to
With the reports that there was some issue causing them to descend too rapidly, is there a theory that they hit the sea bed with enough force to disrupt the structural integrity of the pressure capsule, or are they thinking they imploded before ever reaching the bottom?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:48 am to
Literally could have been some coonass banging on the side of his hull 300 miles away trying to see if any lemon fish were around
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23417 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:50 am to
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No. Because there’s zero chance the Navy didn’t recognize exactly what it was when they heard it.


I mean, this is the same navy that had a frigate run into an Asian ship because no one was paying attention. How many other instances have they had recently?

Don’t get me wrong we have the best navy in the world.

But it’s not like anyone was paying attention to this on a large scale until AFTER they went missing.
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
7157 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:51 am to
Just because the Navy heard something with their ultra secret listening devices doesn't mean you still don't conduct a search and rescue operation. Cameron crowe said when he heard they lost comms in the descent he knew what had happened. Most of those people who work in this field knew what the outcome was going to be but they had to conduct a search and rescue just in case. You don't just throw your hands up in the air and say "welp, they gone!".
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16471 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:57 am to
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Cameron crowe said when he heard they lost comms in the descent he knew what had happened
they lost comms on a previous descent and got lost but nobody died
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 6:58 am
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