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re: These real estate markets may be on the cusp of a San Francisco-style affordability crisis

Posted on 3/18/22 at 10:30 am to
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 10:30 am to
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Let me know when lumber prices start decreasing. Housing prices may stall but there won’t be a crash.


Lumber forecasts are down big time. We could see sub $700/1000 board ft by summer.

Bloomberg

That said, while the pace of appreciation may lessen, there is no one who thinks housing prices are going down anywhere anytime soon. We simply have no inventory.

This post was edited on 3/18/22 at 10:30 am
Posted by Paul Allen
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 10:32 am to
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We simply have no inventory.


For how much longer?

3,5,10 more years?
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 10:34 am to
Im shocked Dallas Suburbs arent on there. I dont see any reprieve in sight.

To get into decent housing/school districts you are minimum of 400-500k.

Pretty much eliminates all first-time home buyers without mommy and daddy backing.
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 10:41 am to
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For how much longer? 3,5,10 more years?


I’ve not heard of an abundance of inventory available anywhere in the US, here in middle TN we have less than a month of inventory. By definition a healthy sellers market has less than 6 months inventory and above that would be neutral to a buyers market.

I would hope that in 3 years time we can get to a healthier level
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 11:56 am to
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It’s rough out there for buyers. I was in one yesterday I called the sellers agent after to see how many offers there were so I could talk with my clients about how far over list we’d need to be to have a shot.

Told them I never knew so many people had that much cash laying around, as cash offers seem to come in on a lot of the ones I’m involved with, and I show 500 plus a year

So as a youngish person only ~5 years into my career with only about $20k on hand you're saying I'm unilaterally screwed.
Posted by Ajo Devil
Tempe, AZ
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 11:58 am to
I bought my house in 1999 and have since refinanced the orig loan. If I had to buy my house today, it would probably cost at least three times as much, and if I had to rent it, the rent would probably be close to three times my mortgage payment. I honestly don't know how young people today afford to buy a house.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 12:22 pm to
I’m driving to Flower Mound tomorrow…how’s that area?
Posted by BK Lounge
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 12:27 pm to
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So as a youngish person only ~5 years into my career with only about $20k on hand you're saying I'm unilaterally screwed.




Pretty much, yeah.. i mean you’re competing with hedge funds and huge conglomerates like Blackrock, Fundrise et al who come in and purchase entire neighborhoods and convert to rentals .. so ur $20k and middle class paystub wont go very far.. you’ll either pay much more for much less house, further out from any decent area.. or you’ll rent until the market ‘crashes’, whenever that might be .
Posted by BK Lounge
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 12:28 pm to
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I honestly don't know how young people today afford to buy a house.




Generally speaking, they dont .
Posted by HamzooReb
Utah
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 5:03 pm to
Everyone needs to stay the hell out of Utah. It is the WORST state to live in. Not worth visiting here.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 5:31 pm to
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So as a youngish person only ~5 years into my career with only about $20k on hand you're saying I'm unilaterally screwed.
No, but you’re not going to be competitive on homes needing little to no work that are move in ready.

Your best bet is new construction, get in on ones that just started and are 6-8 months out on completion.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 5:35 pm to
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here in middle TN we have less than a month of inventory
Same here in Alabama.

What’s really going to suck is when we get another rate hike and everyone on the fence tries to get something.

Bad? I don’t think we’ve seen the kind of crazy that’s going to generate. It’s starting now, but will be worse come July IMO
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 5:47 pm to
Provo is legit. Lots of sexy chicas there and many are anti Mormon and rock luscious under arm hair, which has become my favourite new fetish. I blame my French great grandfather.
This post was edited on 3/18/22 at 5:49 pm
Posted by bostitch
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 5:48 pm to
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Im shocked Dallas Suburbs arent on there. I dont see any reprieve in sight


Watched list prices of 700k turn into actual offers of 1.1M. Insanity
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 6:11 pm to
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I’m driving to Flower Mound tomorrow…how’s that area?


That is one of the most ridiculous markets. We looked at moving there last year (from Southlake). It is a beautiful area and great town but our trade off was not with the move.
This post was edited on 3/18/22 at 6:13 pm
Posted by tiggah1981
Winterfell
Member since Aug 2007
17057 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:50 pm to
i can vouch for oak harbor housing crisis

that housing market was absolutely insane

i kick myself in the nuts for not buying in 2017
This post was edited on 3/18/22 at 8:51 pm
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 9:09 pm to
Pretty happy we bought our house in the triangle 3 years ago. Value has increased substantially
Posted by ChickennBiscuits
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 9:53 pm to
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Im shocked Dallas Suburbs arent on there. I dont see any reprieve in sight. To get into decent housing/school districts you are minimum of 400-500k.


Because 400-500k won’t get you a shitty efficiency in the Bay Area. I get that it’s more expensive than it used to be in DFW, but it’s still far more affordable than a lot of places.
Posted by SmelvinRat
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:29 am to
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and rock luscious under arm hair, which has become my favourite new fetish



Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:42 am to
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Tuansanliem
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After such news, it begins to seem that the barn will be the best investment.


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vfertasd
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After such news, it begins to seem that the barn will be the best investment.


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