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re: These real estate markets may be on the cusp of a San Francisco-style affordability crisis

Posted on 3/18/22 at 7:16 am to
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15529 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 7:16 am to
It’s rough out there for buyers. I was in one yesterday I called the sellers agent after to see how many offers there were so I could talk with my clients about how far over list we’d need to be to have a shot.

Told them I never knew so many people had that much cash laying around, as cash offers seem to come in on a lot of the ones I’m involved with, and I show 500 plus a year
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31535 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 7:17 am to
The other day I said selling silver in 2011 was my only luckily timed investment move. I guess buying a house in Missoula in 2005 was a good slow play.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20033 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 7:18 am to
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A lot of the crazy prices for dumps you see in CA and WA, etc is the land value not the run down house sitting on it.


No shite?
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31535 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 7:32 am to
My friends bought an old 2/1 in Anaconda in '18 for $60k that needed complete gutting, from an old family friend's estate. Everyone in town thought they'd overpaid.

It's an odd, rough n tumble place (which is good in this day of invasion from the Left Coast), but so close to Discovery and Georgetown Lake. Also, the best St. Paddy's Day parade and celebration I've ever seen.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101930 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 7:36 am to
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Butte, Anaconda, Livingston, Ennis, Three Forks, Manhattan, and West Yellowstone are still accessible to folks who aren't coming from the coasts.


Anaconda don't want none unless you got some, son.



Some $$$, obviously.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261538 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 7:39 am to
Government protecting property values is a huge part of this problem.

Posted by lechateau
Member since Dec 2021
967 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 7:47 am to
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Expected to be 6-7 0.25% increases over the next year or so.


Fat chance
Posted by lechateau
Member since Dec 2021
967 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 7:50 am to
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frick Montana is top of my list for places to move too


Also on Californians list
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12373 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 7:50 am to
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Property values won’t be climbing much either.


Let me know when lumber prices start decreasing. Housing prices may stall but there won’t be a crash.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96421 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 7:52 am to
Ok that is just fantasy.

You have to put a 1 at the front of that total due to the land value.
Posted by TexasTiger90
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Jul 2014
3576 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:27 am to
Willing to bet it's all the assholes from California or New York sprinting out of the cities they ruined and driving up the price
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14893 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:43 am to
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I'm in FL (gulf side) and I could easily sell my house for over $1M. But where would I go? I



Bali. Your million would make you an oligarch there. I know people that were poor in the US living like kings there.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47811 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 9:13 am to
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Amazed so many Californians are flocking to Montana when it's so vastly different in culture and climate.


Because the overlords are trying to push surplus D voters out of Cali and New York…

Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
2994 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 9:13 am to
This crisis is expanding through the rest of the country.

It's going to be so much harder for first time homebuyers.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 9:20 am to
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This post was edited on 3/18/22 at 10:55 am
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67017 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 9:22 am to
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Expected to be 6-7 0.25% increases over the next year or so.


quote:

Fat chance


why do you not believe this? The Federal Reserve has forecasted 6 more interest rate hikes in the next year.

A simple google search “Interest Rates 2022”

CNBC Article
NY Times Article
USA Today Article
Reuters Article
and that’s just the first 4 articles that popped up.
This post was edited on 3/18/22 at 9:42 am
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9544 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 9:23 am to
Look at all those beautiful places about to be overrun in left wing shitstains.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9544 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 9:25 am to
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Sorry Montana locals. Y’all fricked


Seriously, people ought to stop selling to people with a California address.

Make them live in the squalor they created.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261538 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 9:25 am to
quote:

frick Montana is top of my list for places to move too
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Also on Californians list


Much of its seasonal or investment property.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27722 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 10:20 am to
Well, for starters your God given right to a 6% annual increase in property values in places like Mandeville are coming to an end.

I suspect the Feds will go for Volcker- light. Raise rates but only do it in small increments in an attempt to choke off inflation.

You can't have it both ways. You cannot have endless appreciation of key asset classes and not be subject to inflation. But if you think inflation is bad, get ready for deflation.
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