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re: There are no laws that say you have to pay taxes.

Posted on 10/7/25 at 6:44 am to
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
15950 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 6:44 am to
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What about the people who go to jail for not paying?


You only go to jail for committing fraud on filed returns No one goes to jail for not paying.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35845 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 6:45 am to
I believe you have to file. Paying is optional
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
21527 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 8:46 am to
A lot of folks who aren't filing get paid in cash for whatever business services they provide. No W-9's ever filed. Roll the dice all you want. Even those receiving Social Security benefits can have their monthly benefits reduced, to approximately $700, till their Federal "debt" is paid off. You are also "free" to drive over the speed limit......till you get caught.
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
943 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 8:56 am to
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People that never pay seem to stay off the radar for far longer than anyone would imagine.


This is true. One of my ex brothers-in-law had his own, mostly cash-based business. He did not pay self-employment tax and did not file any returns.

He got away with it for about 15 years. Then they caught up to him and brought the hammer down.

He didn't spend any time in jail, but he's almost 70 now and lives in a 5th wheel somewhere in Colorado.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
9598 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:02 am to
Report him and collect the 30% whistleblower fee. He’ll be in trouble but you’ll make some easy money.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
73564 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:04 am to
Al Capone says hi.
Posted by Prawn
Member since Jul 2025
36 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:05 am to
My FIL has never paid taxes, and the biggest impact is he is not able to collect social security. He's probably missing out on more than he would have ever paid in, but the IRS is just going to wait until he dies and collect from his estate.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
13435 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:06 am to
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You only go to jail for committing fraud on filed returns No one goes to jail for not paying.


Nope.Incorrect. You can get tossed into hell for chronically not paying.
Posted by Ping Pong
LSU and UVA alum
Member since Aug 2014
5992 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:08 am to
the US government is efficient at only two things: war and collecting taxes

you're buddy is screwed
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112448 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:10 am to
You first.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
19134 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:51 am to
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As a result of these judicial rulings Schiff was in a hospital prison serving a sentence of 162 months (13.5 years) at the time of his death

Ironically, paid by the tax payers.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149445 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:52 am to
Give it a try
Posted by forkedintheroad
Member since Feb 2025
1492 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 10:00 am to
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Just when you think there are no stupid people left in the world


Said nobody ever
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33036 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 10:00 am to
quote:

There are no laws that say you have to pay taxes.



Try to not pay them and let me know how it works out.
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
3073 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 10:15 am to
quote:

No one goes to jail for not paying.

Correct.
quote:

You only go to jail for committing fraud on filed returns

Incorrect.

Not filing a tax return when you earn above whatever threshold the IRS established is a violation of the law.

That doesn’t mean that everyone who misses a single filing will go to jail, but people have done time for failing to file. OP needs to find better friends.
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 10:17 am
Posted by slidingstop
Member since Jan 2025
1697 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 10:20 am to
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He’s self employed and does not pay.


well if you ever want to get into blackmail/extortion, he's given you an entry.

These people remind me of the ones I see on IG at a traffic stop telling the officer that they don't have to show them a driver's license. Right before they get tased and arrested.
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 10:22 am
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