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re: The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald (50th Anniversary)

Posted on 11/10/25 at 9:29 am to
Posted by KiwiHead
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 9:29 am to
The Great Lakes are a Fresh Water Sea
Posted by clamdip
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 9:34 am to
The big lake they called Gitche Gumee.
Posted by EastWestConnection
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 9:55 am to
that ship was 1 foot shorter than the lock it had to pass through. 729 feet. thats a big ship

I used to live a half a black from Lake Michigan and would very often go out and look at the lake at night. My uncle also had a vacation home on Lake Superior. The Great Lakes are named that for a reason, they are inland seas. It must have been so cold and terrifying that night the ship went down. I cant even imagine it.
This post was edited on 11/10/25 at 9:56 am
Posted by duckblind56
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 10:00 am to
Saw a documentary on this a few years ago and the feeling then was a cover on one of the holds around mid ship came loose and water poured into the hold causing the ship to basically break into or basically "fold" into.

Either way it happened, I can't imagine how it felt to be on that ship and knowing it was going to sink and you would be going down with it.
Posted by foj1981
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 10:00 am to
Always liked Ed’s music. Great singer
Posted by MAROON
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 10:05 am to
And all that remains is the faces and the names
Of the wives and the sons and the daughters
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 10:15 am to
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Those lakes are monstrous
Hence the name Great Lakes…
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 10:18 am to
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 10:27 am to
I hear it eased into the water like an old man into a nice warm bath.
Posted by HarryBalzack
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 10:38 am to
Another theory was that one or more of the doors covering the cargo hold opened somehow and the ship started taking on water from crashing waves and rolling seas. The owners had supposedly raised the load line to enable greater hauls/make more money, so it was sitting extremely low in the water.

Plus, as long and skinny as it was, once overloaded with ore and then a belly full of water, it probably didn't take too much to crack it in half in a rolling "sea." The racking, twisting, and bending stress on the hull had to be ridiculous.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:09 am to
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The ship's bell was recovered on July 4, 1995, at the request of family members. The original bell was replaced on the underwater ship with a replica, engraved with the 29 sailors' names on it. In a sense, it is their grave marker.
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Since 1996, the bell has been rung 30 times during each annual ceremony. The only deviation was in 2023, the year that Lightfoot passed away, when the bell was rung 31 times.
Posted by Beer did clam
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:09 am to
Fitz was fully loaded and setting deep. A ripped hole in her bottom would allow water to flood the compartment and build enough pressure to distort the top covers breaking the seal. Failure of the keel would follow that flooding.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:11 am to
A very good, in-depth look at the meteorology on that day:
Posted by hubertcumberdale
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 12:28 pm to
Drinking 29 beers for the men lost + 1 beer for Gordon Lightfoot



Interesting fact i saw on a youtube video, will have to find it but the 100 years before 1975 so many ships sank on the Great Lakes it averaged to something like 1 sailor per day for that time peroid. Since the Fitz sank Nov 10, 1975 there has never been another shipwreck on the Great Lakes

Michigan also passed a law making it illegal to photograph deceased bodies (forgot the exact terminology) bc in the 1990s when they sent down an expedition to explore the wreckage and all the bodies were still preserved bc Lake Supreior is so cold bacteria cannot exist there, and were photographed and included in a documentary that upset the families quite a bit bc they were not even notified.
This post was edited on 11/10/25 at 12:36 pm
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 12:30 pm to
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one of the crew was located outside of the wreck on the bottom.


This picture is on reddit.

Will be honest, I am curious to see the rest.
Posted by HenryParsons
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 12:31 pm to
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Grill or Seafood?


Steakhouse
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 12:32 pm to
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Arthur M. Anderson was also struck by 70-to-75-knot (130 to 139 km/h; 81 to 86 mph) gusts and rogue waves as high as 35 feet.
This post was edited on 11/10/25 at 12:34 pm
Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 12:34 pm to
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Lake Superior is about 31,000 square miles
Superior is over half the size of Louisiana.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 12:36 pm to
The Anderson made it in to Whitefish Bay and safety. The Coast Guard asked them to go back out into that horror show to search for Fitz (or survivors) and they did.

Respect.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 12:37 pm to
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You are more correct than the earlier poster.

The scours by where the Industrial Canal, Chef Pass & the Rigolets intersect are deeper than that but generally the entire lake is under 20’ of depth.

As in 99.99% of the lake is less than 20’ deep.

Makes for short, abrupt wave periods.


I think the avg depth of Lake Maurepas is like 7'
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