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re: "The vaccine was never supposed to prevent spread, its just to reduce symptoms!!!"
Posted on 12/17/21 at 10:42 am to SDTiger15
Posted on 12/17/21 at 10:42 am to SDTiger15
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Can you link that quote? Just want to see who said it
The current president of the United States said it.
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During a July 2021 CNN town hall, U.S. President Joe Biden falsely stated that "You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations," and "If you’re vaccinated, you’re not going to be hospitalized, you’re not going to be in the ICU unit, and you’re not going to die."
Here's another quote at a CNN town hall meeting:
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But, again, one last thing. We don’t talk enough to you about this, I don’t think. One last thing that’s really important is, we’re not in the position where we think that any virus, including the Delta virus, which is much more transmissible and more deadly in terms of unvaccinated people, the — the various shots that people are getting now cover that. You’re OK. You’re not going to — you’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.
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Posted on 12/17/21 at 10:44 am to goldennugget
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Anti vaxxers are responsible for the spread
anti vaxxers spread it so must get vaccinated or else
the vaccine doesn't stop the spread
the vaccinated spread it
the vaccinated don't spread it
You will take every vaccine
You will take every booster
Natural immunity doesn't count
There is no such thing as immunity
It stops symptoms
Except in when it doesn't
You will take every vaccine.
You will take every booster
Welcome to the new normal.
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 10:45 am
Posted on 12/17/21 at 10:45 am to goldennugget
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Is it just me or is this major goalpost movement.
The goalposts have been moving since 2 weeks to slow the spread
And they will continue to move. We will never go back to “normal” because there will always be a variant
Posted on 12/17/21 at 11:13 am to SDTiger15
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Can you link that quote? Just want to see who said it
Sure.
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"You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations," Biden said in the CNN interview.
quote:
"This is a simple, basic proposition: If you’re vaccinated, you’re not going to be hospitalized, you’re not going to be in an ICU unit, and you’re not going to die," he said.
July 2021
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During an MSNBC interview with Rachel Maddow on Monday, Walensky said: "Our data from the CDC today suggests that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't get sick, and that it's not just in the clinical trials, but it's also in real-world data."
Rochelle Wolensky Head of CDC in March 2021
Anyone suggesting the goal posts have not moved is either uniformed, or lying on purpose.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 11:17 am to GeauxTigerTM
if you guys would just listen to your overbearing government officials better this would be over already.
just like the UK, where 90% of the adult population is fully vaccinated. They totally don’t have to worry about the DEADLY Omicron variant.
just like the UK, where 90% of the adult population is fully vaccinated. They totally don’t have to worry about the DEADLY Omicron variant.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 11:18 am to Chucktown_Badger
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Yes, it is. It reduces severity and death.
If this is what defines a vaccine, then would you also classify Zinc and Vitamin C as vaccines?
Posted on 12/17/21 at 11:22 am to goldennugget
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Pretty sure the vaccine companies, politicians, media, etc. sold it as something that prevented contraction and spread back when they were rolled out. Pretty sure the vaccine manufacturers pitched it to the FDA as something that prevented spread and contraction.
Feels like we have a lot of “reduce” vs “eliminate” issues when discussing this topic.
Reduction was definitely part of the story. Elimination never was.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 11:26 am to NoSaint
so why does the media, social media, etc make comments eluding to or directly asserting that it’s the unvaccinated folk’s fault COVID is still around?
horse shite
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Elimination never was.
horse shite
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 11:32 am
Posted on 12/17/21 at 11:31 am to goldennugget
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Is it just me or is this major goalpost movement.
It's been the messaging from the beginning. It's the anti vax crowd that has put false promises on this thing to disprove it's legitimacy.
The numbers you have to look at are hospitalizations and deaths for non-vaccinated and vaccinated.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 11:34 am to sicboy
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It's been the messaging from the beginning. It's the anti vax crowd that has put false promises on this thing to disprove it's legitimacy.
there are literally direct quotes in this thread falsifying this pathetic point you’re trying to make
Posted on 12/17/21 at 11:34 am to sicboy
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It's been the messaging from the beginning.
No, it hasn't.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 11:35 am to goldennugget
Absolutely the goal posts have moved.. they have been moving from the start and they won't stop moving.. there are still commercials talking about protecting the community by taking the vaccine..
Posted on 12/17/21 at 11:36 am to Klark Kent
It's the messaging we've always understood with it. My chances of not catching it improved drastically but I'm not completely immune.
My wife, a nurse, has done all the research for this for our family and we knew what it was all about.
My wife, a nurse, has done all the research for this for our family and we knew what it was all about.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 11:38 am to Klark Kent
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so why does the media, social media, etc make comments eluding to or directly asserting that it’s the unvaccinated folk’s fault COVID is still around?
Everyone knows why even if they won't admit it. People are stupid and need an 'enemy' to be pointed at as to why things keep getting worse.
"its the unvaxxed fault. Btw that vaccine doesn't actually stop you from getting it or giving it to others. The fact it doesn't work, well that is also the unvaxxed's fault!"
Posted on 12/17/21 at 11:40 am to goldennugget
Just get the jab. Do as you’re told. Peasant.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 11:44 am to sicboy
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It's the messaging we've always understood with it.
now you’re just lying
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My chances of not catching it improved drastically but I'm not completely immune.
irrelevant to this argument. no one cares.
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My wife, a nurse, has done all the research for this for our family and we knew what it was all about.
irrelevant to this argument. no one cares
so tell us about this crystal ball of yours. or your wife’s extensive knowledge of a relatively new infectious diseases, as a nurse. that led you to get vaccinated in early 2021 (i’ll assume) and then get a booster every 6 months because you knew it would mitigate symptoms, not prevent COVID.
Got any posts on this topic in your post history to back this up? as a long time member of Tigerdroppings you should told us!!!!
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 11:59 am
Posted on 12/17/21 at 11:45 am to GeauxTigerTM
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"This is a simple, basic proposition: If you’re vaccinated, you’re not going to be hospitalized, you’re not going to be in an ICU unit, and you’re not going to die," he said
Nothing about the spread in this quote.
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During an MSNBC interview with Rachel Maddow on Monday, Walensky said: "Our data from the CDC today suggests that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't get sick, and that it's not just in the clinical trials, but it's also in real-world data."
"Data suggests".
She got some wrong conclusions from her data but the quote opens with "data... suggests".
So 1/3 on the quotes.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 11:51 am to goldennugget
It was hoped that the vaccine would both reduce the spread and provide tools to the immune system to be better equipped to bet the virus if you got it. So, both.
So then we see how successful it it and also see how the virus mutates. It's a dynamic situation.
But all of this "It's fake unless it does ___" or "This is a lie unless it does ___" stuff is stupid. It's really an argument that we shouldn't do or try anything.
So then we see how successful it it and also see how the virus mutates. It's a dynamic situation.
But all of this "It's fake unless it does ___" or "This is a lie unless it does ___" stuff is stupid. It's really an argument that we shouldn't do or try anything.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 11:51 am to goldennugget
And they have no plans on making it a true vaccine either. It's all about making money and requiring you to have to take it repeatedly. And it's why I believe this a engineered virus intentionally released for this very purpose. Not some bullshite origin story about Chinese eating bats and pangolins.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 11:57 am to Vlatket
The powers that be chose to put all their eggs in the “vaccine” basket and very little in the therapeutics basket and EVEN LESS in they “hey this might be a good time to start getting healthy” basket.
Hell I know people that didn’t even know about the antibody infusion treatment until just recently.
Hell I know people that didn’t even know about the antibody infusion treatment until just recently.
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 11:58 am
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