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Posted on 12/17/21 at 4:39 pm to loogaroo
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Children's natural immunity will kill the virus off for all of us if just leave them alone and not give them the shot as a whole.
Oh my fricking god.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 4:42 pm to loogaroo
quote:It is one of the worst things we have done to the youngest generations.
The worst thing we ever did was isolate the kids and close schools.
Honestly though, the minute people started supporting lockdowns, we were screwed.
It is one of the worst policies pushed by Trump.
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 12/17/21 at 4:43 pm to crazy4lsu
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Oh my fricking god.
What is the benefit of vaccinating children? They already almost never have serious cases and the vast majority are extremely mild.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 4:44 pm to Scruffy
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Honestly though, the minute people started supporting lockdowns, we were screwed.
Lockdowns are a last-ditch strategy that need planning and don't seemingly work all that well in a globalized economy. I don't know why it was our first-line strategy.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 4:45 pm to Scruffy
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It is one of the worst things we have done to the youngest generations.
Honestly though, the minute people started supporting lockdowns, we were screwed.
Agreed but to be fair at first there were some questions about what we were dealing with. Now if China would’ve been up front from the beginning then we would’ve understood what we were dealing with.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 4:47 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:Because people are largely moronic, overly emotional creatures who are riled up and frightened very easily.
Lockdowns are a last-ditch strategy that need planning and don't seemingly work all that well in a globalized economy. I don't know why it was our first-line strategy.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 4:49 pm to Scruffy
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Because people are largely moronic, overly emotional creatures who are riled up and frightened very easily.
I would say that they are easily riled up 1st and foremost. The MSM did an excellent job doing that in the beginning.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 4:49 pm to STEVED00
quote:There is no “but to be fair” here.
Agreed but to be fair at first there were some questions about what we were dealing with.
It was a terrible idea 2 years ago and it continues to be a terrible idea.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 4:52 pm to Scruffy
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It was a terrible idea 2 years ago and it continues to be a terrible idea.
Oh I agree but I can at least understand why they did it. They had “scientists” saying this was the second coming of the plague! Come to find out, those “scientists” had ulterior motives.
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 12/17/21 at 4:55 pm to STEVED00
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What is the benefit of vaccinating children? They already almost never have serious cases and the vast majority are extremely mild.
Well I was responding to this notion, which is immensely silly. 'Children's natural immunity will kill the virus off for all of us if just leave them alone and not give them the shot as a whole.'
Children's natural immunity will absolutely not kill off the virus for all of us. It's genuinely one of the most retarded things I've ever read.
There are many theories about why COVID19 is less severe in children, as with virulent pathogens, generally the opposite is true. UpToDate lists several possibilities, such as less intense immune response which is less likely to provoke cytokine release syndrome, lower viral load, differing expression of ACE2 cells in the RT of children, the possibility of a cross-reactive antibody, early mucosal immune response, and the smaller likelihood of endothelial injury. None of that means that children could eliminate the virus 'all of us.'
Posted on 12/17/21 at 4:55 pm to Scruffy
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Because people are largely moronic, overly emotional creatures who are riled up and frightened very easily.
Especially epidemiologists.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 4:59 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:The ones who gained notoriety and ended up on talk shows, news programs, etc., I agree completely.
Especially epidemiologists.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 5:00 pm to STEVED00
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Agreed but to be fair at first there were some questions about what we were dealing with. Now if China would’ve been up front from the beginning then we would’ve understood what we were dealing with.
A lockdown so early in the response almost certainly prevents the use of any lockdown in the future. We had very few cases at that point, and the strategy should have been targeted to affected areas while also building a strategic reserve of needed items in case of a lockdown in the future. The assumption that everyone seems to make is that distribution of the virus will be even at any point in time. In that case, a lockdown can work. But a lockdown with a virus which has no consistent presentation with a physical or dermatologic sign (which is why were were able to limit the spread of other viruses passed by respiratory droplets, as they had pathognomonic viral exanthems) is among the stupidest strategies ever employed.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 5:01 pm to Scruffy
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The ones who gained notoriety and ended up on talk shows, news programs, etc., I agree completely.
Even before this, of any field, epidemiologists seemed to be waiting for the 'big one.' And to be fair, there were people who suggested that coronavirus morphology had the potential for widespread disease.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 5:03 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:Exactly!
A lockdown so early in the response almost certainly prevents the use of any lockdown in the future. We had very few cases at that point, and the strategy should have been targeted to affected areas while also building a strategic reserve of needed items in case of a lockdown in the future. The assumption that everyone seems to make is that distribution of the virus will be even at any point in time. In that case, a lockdown can work. But a lockdown with a virus which has no consistent presentation with a physical or dermatologic sign (which is why were were able to limit the spread of other viruses passed by respiratory droplets, as they had pathognomonic viral exanthems) is among the stupidest strategies ever employed.
God, that is so damn infuriating.
Just because NYC has an outbreak doesn’t mean everyone in Buffalo should be locked in their homes.
But, no, logic cannot be used here.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 5:03 pm to Scruffy
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I wouldn’t consider throwing a new medication at a patient if the only research available was drug company funded.
Uh, most of them are.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 5:04 pm to crazy4lsu
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A lockdown so early in the response almost certainly prevents the use of any lockdown in the future.
Clearly you don’t “Australia” bro.
If you pop positive down under...
Posted on 12/17/21 at 5:07 pm to loogaroo
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The worst thing we ever did was isolate the kids and close schools.
We're already starting to see the negative effects of that. Math and reading proficiency has taken a huge hit, and the mental health impacts are starting to set in.
The teachers in Illinois went so far as to say that they would not agree to a mandate for all of them to get vaccinated, but they wanted a mandate for all kids to get vaccinated. They're fricking insane and don't give a shite about the kids.
ETA: they also wanted to go to a permanent hybrid model going forward, where one day a week was remote, because they're just that lazy
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 12/17/21 at 5:09 pm to Chucktown_Badger
Teachers have harmed their reputations so severely over the previous 2 years that the group in 2nd place (medical care) is so far behind that they’ll never catch up.
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