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re: "The vaccine was never supposed to prevent spread, its just to reduce symptoms!!!"
Posted on 12/17/21 at 12:02 pm to TBoy
Posted on 12/17/21 at 12:02 pm to TBoy
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So then we see how successful it it and also see how the virus mutates. It's a dynamic situation.
newsflash: every virus mutates. they have since the dawn of time. this is irrelevant to the conversation, when your beloved TV doctors and politicians are making definitive statements, policies, and mandates that ignore the statistics of a dynamic situation completely. so no, you don’t get to play the “the science is evolving” card. try again LowTBoy
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 12:12 pm
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Posted on 12/17/21 at 12:05 pm to goldennugget
who said this? link to quote?
Posted on 12/17/21 at 12:07 pm to TBoy
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So then we see how successful it it and also see how the virus mutates. It's a dynamic situation.
Are you one of those people who admit it's a dynamic situation, then at the same time are in favor of heavy-handed all-or-nothing measures like vaccine mandates?
Because at this point - since it's freely admitted the vaccine does not stop the spread - then it really should be up to the individual as to whether or not they want to get it, right? Since we're all potential petri dishes for a variant regardless of status - omicron demonstrates as much.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 12:08 pm to goldennugget
I will never understand from a scientific point of view why the vaxxed care so much about my vaxx status. If you are scared of covid my vaxx status will not make you anymore or less safe.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 12:18 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Anyone suggesting the goal posts have not moved is either uniformed, or lying on purpose.
I would say it's more a case of us learning the effect of the vaccines over time as opposed to moving the goalposts.
But saying that we need to stop transmission of the virus when the original restrictions were solely in place to prevent the hospitals from being overrun...THAT is moving the goalposts.
Biden is just an idiot who doesn't know if he's coming or going.
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Rochelle Wolensky Head of CDC in March 2021
This chick is also a fricking moron. I'll never forget her fake crying and terror when we were on the downslope of the outbreak.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 12:20 pm to RidiculousHype
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If this is what defines a vaccine, then would you also classify Zinc and Vitamin C as vaccines?
No. Unless you think they meet this definition. I don't.
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a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 12:22 pm to Athis
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there are still commercials talking about protecting the community by taking the vaccine..
As there should be. Are you guys being intentionally dense on this? The vaccines reduce the chances of severe disease, hospitalization, and death. That is completely backed up by the data.
I've said it before...vaccines and treatments are now available and more will continue to come. We should be 100% open and no masks on planes or any of that shite. I don't give a shite if you don't want to get vaccinated. I'm in favor of personal responsibility, meaning you deal with whatever comes your way.
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 12/17/21 at 12:23 pm to SDVTiger
quote:Why? Because the retard idiot lying politcians Biden said it? The politcians have lied since the beginning because they think citizens are dumb and beneath them, so they create lies they think will work on the peasants. The problem is a lot of people aren’t idiots, and when they see those lies they then entrench themselves to believe nothing that ever comes out again, and here we are with covid tribalism
Lsupride87 is gonna be so mad about this
The purpose of any vaccine is to produce an antibody response and prevent replication of the virus, thus reducing symptoms or eliminating all symptoms. It’s physically impossible for a vaccine to create a force field barrier that doesn’t allow it to enter the host. Which is why anyone ever believed the vaccine would “prevent all spread” or “prevent someone from carrying the virus” is an absolute moron, and to even say that is utterly retarded or manipulative
Any spread mitigation is simply a correlating effect of the replication depreciation
That’s true of all vaccines. Now does the more people that get vaccinated mean the virus has a less chance to spread to everyone? Of course. But frick doing things “for the good of others”
This is a free country. So what you see fit for yourself
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 12/17/21 at 12:44 pm to Chucktown_Badger
Then don't call it a vaccine. Call it what it is. A therapeutic. If you can still get the damned bug then it's not a vaccine. Vaccine connotes a cure and an attempt at possible eradication like we did with smallpox and polio.This is not like either of them.
Really, I would think that someone such as yourself who has been educated at an august public institution like UWM could understand that.
Really, I would think that someone such as yourself who has been educated at an august public institution like UWM could understand that.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 12:47 pm to KiwiHead
quote:You can still get polio and smallpox after the vaccine
Then don't call it a vaccine. Call it what it is. A therapeutic. If you can still get the damned bug then it's not a vaccine. Vaccine connotes a cure and an attempt at possible eradication like we did with smallpox and polio.This is not like either of them.
Same with every single vaccine in history. A vaccine isn’t a force field. It simply fights off replication either diminishing symptoms or keeping you from having all symptoms. If you tested vaccinated people for polio and smallpox during the period of vaccination, you would have have many people test positive with no symptoms or mild symptoms.
That’s why testing people who aren’t really sick is the dumbest thing done in this entire ordeal
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 12/17/21 at 12:49 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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The virus is still in you and your nasal passages and can be expelled and therefore infect others. Pretty straightforward actually.
But if you aren’t coughing or sneezing or showing any other symptoms, how much virus are you shedding just by breathing?
Posted on 12/17/21 at 12:50 pm to etm512
quote:Barely any at all, if any
But if you aren’t coughing or sneezing or showing any other symptoms, how much virus are you shedding just by breathing?
Asymptomatic aren’t already the virus at any material amount. But idiot democrats set that lie in motion at the beginning, and idiots on the left side of the fence bought it
So now, you have the other tribe using it agaisnt vaccines
And around and round we go
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 12/17/21 at 12:54 pm to lsupride87
Thought so. Also why the testing of asymptomatic people drives me insane
Posted on 12/17/21 at 12:57 pm to lsupride87
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That’s true of all vaccines. Now does the more people that get vaccinated mean the virus has a less chance to spread to everyone? Of course. But frick doing things “for the good of others”
The other vaccines seem to do a better job preventing the spread then this one considering a ton of people have either had it or been vaccinated. At the end of the day, the vaccine did its job to protect people who are high risk.
Did some high risk people refuse to take it? Yes and they dealt with the consequences. My issue is that now it is being pushed on kids knowing that the main thing the vaccine does is prevent serious illness for a group that is essentially already at a negligible threat of serious illness. That is down right criminal and a clear money grab IMO.
There is way more than pro and anti vaccine camps. The most prolific camp that probably isn’t the Twitter mob is the camp that just wants to leave them and their family alone.
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 12/17/21 at 12:59 pm to lsupride87
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Asymptomatic aren’t already the virus at any material amount. But idiot democrats set that lie in motion at the beginning, and idiots on the left side of the fence bought it
me and you have gone round after round on this topic, so we both know what corner the other is in. But i’d actually give folks a pass on the asymptomatic spread talk early on. Feels like for the most part that was really early in the pandemic before we knew much about COVID. Not to say some of the early attempts to mitigate the spread weren’t silly and pointless, they absolutely were.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 1:03 pm to KiwiHead
2 weeks to flatten the curve, just trust us. We would never abuse emergency powers.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 1:04 pm to goldennugget
POS leftist whores of TD are literally in here moving goalposts. 
Posted on 12/17/21 at 1:15 pm to goldennugget
Not a vaccine... It is a Flu shot...
Posted on 12/17/21 at 1:16 pm to goldennugget
The goalposts moved to this months ago.
And yet they still use the old arguments of “protect those around you by getting vaccinated”.
Best advice i can give is to stop listening to people. They’re all dumb.
And yet they still use the old arguments of “protect those around you by getting vaccinated”.
Best advice i can give is to stop listening to people. They’re all dumb.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 1:41 pm to KiwiHead
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Then don't call it a vaccine. Call it what it is. A therapeutic. If you can still get the damned bug then it's not a vaccine. Vaccine connotes a cure and an attempt at possible eradication like we did with smallpox and polio.This is not like either of them.
Jesus Tapdancing Christ some of you are stupid. Look up the definition of "vaccine". I posted it a page back if you wanna read it there.
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