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re: The education data out of Mississippi is getting more insane. They have zoomed past CA
Posted on 9/27/25 at 2:08 pm to Hester Carries
Posted on 9/27/25 at 2:08 pm to Hester Carries
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I have no recollection of how I learned to read. I do remember “hooked on phonics” being a massive thing in the 90s. What’s the other way they’ve been teaching?
Exactly what I thought of reading this thread. I think I learned phonics but I don’t remember. What’s the other method?
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Posted on 9/27/25 at 2:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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If you live where I do, in Oakland, California, and you cannot afford private education, you should be seriously considering moving to Mississippi for the substantially better public schools.
Mississippi people will love seeing this.
Posted on 9/27/25 at 2:31 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Somehow posted in the wrong thread 
This post was edited on 9/27/25 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 9/27/25 at 3:21 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Honestly Mississippi, I’m happy for you, truly am, however you may want to keep this information to yourself and let ignorant Yankees believe you are a backwater state so they don’t come down and ruin your shite like they are doing to basically every southern state except for Louisiana (no one wants to live there anyways).
Posted on 9/27/25 at 4:26 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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It’s due to phonics-based teaching.
How the concept of "whole language" ever came about is wild. Poor phonics went the way of minute math, and everyone suffered for it.
Bloom's Taxonomy is grossly misunderstood. Just because rote memory is easy, it's a necessary building block for the "thinking" that comes after it.
Hear me now, parents of youngins... Phonics training works. So do math flash cards. You're welcome.
Posted on 9/27/25 at 4:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
California is a very low bar
Posted on 9/27/25 at 4:43 pm to JohnnyKilroy
I had a friend who was homeschooled and struggled . He did hooked on phonics and still couldn’t. Get it . We were teenagers and he failed the hunters safety course because he struggled to read and it was a real test that he wasn’t used to taking as his mom didn’t do it for him like she did everything else
Posted on 9/27/25 at 4:46 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Lakshya Jain
Posted on 9/27/25 at 4:47 pm to shutterspeed
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All that and MS teachers among the lowest paid and CA among the highest. MS students among the least affluent and CA among the most.
Compare the tax rates and report back.
Posted on 9/27/25 at 4:54 pm to dnm3305
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How far have we fallen when only 52% of black 4th graders reading at grade level is supposed to be some win, and a “win” substantial enough to make headlines?
I don’t even know that I can take you seriously or not…how far have we fallen? 52% is an absolutely unbelievable number. If you asked me how many black people are grade level readers at ANY age, I’d give you a single digit guess.
Posted on 9/27/25 at 4:55 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Reading is a white supremacist construct. It's no surprise that black students can read where the Klan is still in control and they can't read in utopian places where equity and inclusion are priorities.
I was surprised over a decade ago when we stopped at a diner for gas while driving through the delta area. Both black and white farmers were taking a break for morning coffee all sitting at the same large round table for 10. No empty seats between black and white men. All of them had dually pickups parked outside
Posted on 9/27/25 at 5:02 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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insane
There are roughly 4800 adjectives in the English language.
Americans can apparently only use (2) of them (crazy and insane).
Posted on 9/27/25 at 7:42 pm to shutterspeed
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MS teachers among the lowest paid and CA among the highest
This right here is why it is opposed by AFT. Have shitty student performance, cry for money, rinse repeat.
Everything these motherfrickers do is to steal money. Even if it means leaving children ignorant and unable to function in society.
Posted on 9/28/25 at 12:21 am to weagle1999
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There are roughly 4800 adjectives in the English language. Americans can apparently only use (2) of them (crazy and insane).
That’s insane. Never really thought about it but that’s a crazy amount.
Posted on 9/28/25 at 12:55 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I started out my teaching career in 1st grade. That school used a phonics based program called DISTAR (Direct instructional system for teaching and remediation). It was very structured and the kids’ test scores in reading were through the roof. Then I moved to a different district which used the whole language approach. A colleague of mine swore that was the best method for teaching reading. I disagreed and we had many debates over the best way to teach reading to kids. Well, their test scores weren’t close to the district which used the DISTAR system. To this day, I still believe using a phonics based reading program is the best method for MOST students.
Posted on 9/28/25 at 1:18 am to shutterspeed
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All that and MS teachers among the lowest paid and CA among the highest. MS students among the least affluent and CA among the most.
Their state has had a very long history of uneducated and undereducated population, particularly in the delta. This has resulted in a very poor state. They have to start with educating their population before those people can start making more money. It has to start somewhere and what MS has done has lead to others in the south following suit. It is the first time in MS’s history that their kids have a chance at an education better than many other states and the first time they have been innovative in education.
People in the north get on their high horse about having freed slaves. What they did was destroy an economy, decimate the communities, and abandon those people they “freed” by leaving them without providing any access to housing, education or jobs. They left them with non-homogenous society, which has never worked anywhere, a group of people that have never had a focus on education, had no job skills other than manual labor, and states whose economies were destroyed being left to foot the bill for those people.
This is a very big thing for MS and will be for other similarly situated states. Education without liberal policies in place is going to help states that implement these policies have a population more educated/equipped to compete and be productive members of society.
Posted on 9/28/25 at 1:29 am to Joshjrn
Look up “Sold A Story”. It’s a podcast series that covered the whole saga.
Very interesting. You nailed it.
Cueing and whole reading are bullshite and the reason a ton of kids can’t read.
Very interesting. You nailed it.
Cueing and whole reading are bullshite and the reason a ton of kids can’t read.
Posted on 9/28/25 at 3:33 am to lsufan1971
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Limiting instructional approaches undermines teachers’ professional autonomy
The hyper ignorant egotistical narcissistic willful blindness employed by the left in every single situation is amazing. Cognitive dissonance and constant deflection on a level I’ve never seen before.
So what if my teaching methods factually fail and my students are illiterate and failing and my school is falling apart, I am a teacher and thus my means and my ends are above reproach. You must respect my methods because of my certification regardless of actual outcomes because outcomes are racist and sexist.
Posted on 9/28/25 at 5:43 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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If you live where I do, in Oakland, California, and you cannot afford private education, you should be seriously considering moving to Mississippi
Boys, its time to form up the state militias, Mississippi is one of if not the most famous states for their hard fighting men.
In a year the people that moved there would vote for and elect retarded progressives that would destroy the education system
This post was edited on 9/28/25 at 5:46 am
Posted on 9/28/25 at 6:55 am to BurningHeart
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Mississippi is becoming the brother that eventually escapes the ghetto and turns out to live a successful life. While Louisiana is still living with its parents on food stamps.
If you had gone to private school you would have read LA as a success story in the article.
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