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The Archbishop trying to put schools and parishes on the hook for the Churches sin….
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:36 pm
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In a letter Friday to the clergy, religious and laity, Archbishop Gregory Aymond said for the first time that individual parishes, schools and charities will be asked to help cover the rising costs of abuse claims, which total nearly 500 to date. That number has grown dramatically over the course of the church's bankruptcy.
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It’s unclear how much the archdiocese will seek from parishes and schools, which are not technically debtors in the bankruptcy case and have a separate attorney representing them. The letter says only: “We now know there must be a contribution from the apostolates. We do not yet know what that total contribution will be or what will be asked of each entity.”
I find this absolutely repulsive, why in the hell should schools and parishioners today be on the hook and asked to pay for what these sickos did long ago? Let the archdiocese sell some of the property they’re sitting on to pay off their debts.
I guess next year when tuition bills come out there will be an abuse fee tacked on.
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This post was edited on 9/9/23 at 12:04 am
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:39 pm to TJG210
Unfortunately they can do just about whatever they want. Where else can you send kids to school safely?
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:41 pm to TJG210
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why in the hell should schools and parishioners today be on the hook and asked to pay for what these sickos did long ago?
Because they allow it themselves to be.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:46 pm to TJG210
Set up a lemonade stand….except put a sign that says “Free BJs: Tithes accepted”. Win-win for them
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:52 pm to TJG210
The letter said when the bankruptcy was filed there were 30 abuse claims, now there are more than 500.
Either there is fraud, or my goodness the abuse was far worse than we imagined.
My guess is a lot of schools and parishes will cease to exist. That’s where the extra money will come from.
The Christopher Homes properties will be sold off to real estate investors.
The seminary might close.
Either there is fraud, or my goodness the abuse was far worse than we imagined.
My guess is a lot of schools and parishes will cease to exist. That’s where the extra money will come from.
The Christopher Homes properties will be sold off to real estate investors.
The seminary might close.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:54 pm to TJG210
I think you can look at this in two ways.
On the one hand, yes - it’s unfair that current parents/parishioners should have to pay for things that happened decades ago.
On the other hand, those abuse cases happened somewhere. I don’t claim to know the exact makeup of the cases but surely a lot of them (I would think most) happened at.. well.. schools and individual parishes.
So while it may not be fair that parents and parishioners ultimately get stuck with those costs, is it really unfair that the actual schools and parishes have to pay them?
On the one hand, yes - it’s unfair that current parents/parishioners should have to pay for things that happened decades ago.
On the other hand, those abuse cases happened somewhere. I don’t claim to know the exact makeup of the cases but surely a lot of them (I would think most) happened at.. well.. schools and individual parishes.
So while it may not be fair that parents and parishioners ultimately get stuck with those costs, is it really unfair that the actual schools and parishes have to pay them?
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 11:58 pm
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:56 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Either there is fraud, or my goodness the abuse was far worse than we imagined.
Probably a combination, i thought there was a statute of limitations for people to sue? People who were wronged deserve to be compensated, but having it go on in perpetuity make its seem like it will be abused by scammers.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:56 pm to LSUFanHouston
I’d go with many bogus claims being filed. Not to say that there aren’t meritorious ones—there certainly are—but with all the lawyer ads for church abuse claims, you’re going to have some fraudsters.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:58 pm to lostinbr
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So while it may not be fair that parents and parishioners ultimately get stuck with those costs, is it really unfair that the schools and parishes have to pay them?
The schools/parishes from what I know weren’t the ones covering them up and allowing it to continue. The priests movements were controlled by the diocese.
Posted on 9/9/23 at 12:08 am to TJG210
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The schools/parishes from what I know weren’t the ones covering them up and allowing it to continue. The priests movements were controlled by the diocese.
That’s a fair point and like I said, I can see both sides for sure.
I guess the counterpoint would be that the parishes are part of the diocese, no? And also - does it make sense that the diocese knew what was happening but nobody in the parishes/schools knew? I mean how does the diocese even find out about these allegations?
The truth is probably somewhere in the middle, as always.
ETA: I can certainly see how there’s a difference between hearing one allegation about a particular priest who then moves elsewhere vs. hearing 20 allegations about a priest from 20 different locations.
This post was edited on 9/9/23 at 12:11 am
Posted on 9/9/23 at 12:14 am to TJG210
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Probably a combination, i thought there was a statute of limitations for people to sue? People who were wronged deserve to be compensated, but having it go on in perpetuity make its seem like it will be abused by scammers.
They had a pause on the statue of limitations like California and New York. There's no doubt some of these allegations are true but the majority are bogus. In California, the kid on the Nevermind album cover sued Nirvana claiming it was child porn and then later the actors in the Romeo and Juliet movie sued Paramount claiming it was child porn. In New York, Democrats passed it to enable E Jean Carroll to sue Trump for rape (her story was later discovered to have been stolen from a Law And Order episode).
This post was edited on 9/9/23 at 12:15 am
Posted on 9/9/23 at 12:18 am to TJG210
This is so putrid. Christ condemn them all.
Posted on 9/9/23 at 12:18 am to TJG210
Better email the pope and tell him to start selling off some assets to cover those legal fees.
We Ain’t paying for that shite.
We Ain’t paying for that shite.
This post was edited on 9/9/23 at 12:19 am
Posted on 9/9/23 at 12:18 am to jatilen
If a priest abuses his position of power and takes the innocence of a child the death penalty should be invoked. Absolute sickness that this still occurs.
Posted on 9/9/23 at 12:26 am to LSUFanHouston
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Either there is fraud, or my goodness the abuse was far worse than we imagined.
It's probably both
Posted on 9/9/23 at 12:26 am to TJG210
So what they are saying that people who donate to a Catholic Church, those funds should go to pay the debts of pedos? And tuitions parents pay to send to their kids to school should go to that? If thats what they are saying, seriously frick em I hope they enjoy the depths of hell
If that’s what they are saying I hope the entire church crumples to the ground and lays in the rumple because any organization/society that thinks like that deserves nothing better than to eat and live like rats
If that’s what they are saying I hope the entire church crumples to the ground and lays in the rumple because any organization/society that thinks like that deserves nothing better than to eat and live like rats
This post was edited on 9/9/23 at 12:28 am
Posted on 9/9/23 at 12:35 am to Eauxs Eaux Face
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So what they are saying that people who donate to a Catholic Church, those funds should go to pay the debts of pedos?
I guess you can say that, though my understanding it’s more the suit from the coverup.
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And tuitions parents pay to send to their kids to school should go to that? If thats what they are saying
It wasn’t specifically outlined, but it really looks like they’ll be coming with hat in hand for both. Maybe they’ll just use the second collections for that…..
Honestly I think it’s a vehicle to piss people off to the point where they can further shrink some enrollments, close more schools, and use the real estate sales to pay off the debt.
The amount of anger this will cause if they actually attempt it will leave people running for the hills.
Posted on 9/9/23 at 12:39 am to TJG210
I honestly think this will crumple the Catholic Church, if they really enforce this, in smaller communities. You will see complete and utter stop in donations from parishioners. It’s happened on smaller scales I’ve seen where dioceses have supported one school over another. I can only imagine what this is gonna do
Posted on 9/9/23 at 12:59 am to Eauxs Eaux Face
Church wouldn’t get another red cent from me. Ever. And if I had kids in those schools, I’d be ahead of the game in getting them out.
This post was edited on 9/9/23 at 1:00 am
Posted on 9/9/23 at 1:09 am to lostinbr
Many cases happened in the parish where we attend church. I do NOT feel like it's up to me in any way, shape or form to pay for this ... and I personally know two people who were victims.
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