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re: The Advocate: New Roundabouts baffle Livingston Parish drivers and law enforcement

Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:45 am to
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40818 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:45 am to
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When they installed the one on LSU campus by the Cox building, I always used to see if I could drive in circles fast enough to halt the flow of traffic.


The one outside of sigma chi is a life saver. That intersection use to be awful
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40907 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:46 am to
Leesville has them. If Vernon Parish can figure it out, I don't know what to tell them folks down in the LP.
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
11440 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:48 am to
As someone mentioned the outside lane is closed. Dumbasses it will work when construction is finished. Louisiana drivers and media is why we can have shite that works. Always bitching before it is finished. LA 42 bitching will start soon since construction is starting.
Posted by bigrob385series
B. Aura
Member since May 2014
2636 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:49 am to
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Livingston had a hell of a time figuring out the ramp meters about 10 years ago. This is really a lot for them to handle in one decade.
I agree with that,trust me i see it a lot.but part of me thinks DOTD likes to throw traffic circles at problem intersections just to claim "it's fixed" without much effort.i mean traffic circles aren't new...stop lights replaced them back in the day.
Posted by X123F45
Dictated not Read
Member since Apr 2015
30048 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:49 am to
Coming from Dalrymple, you don't even have to turn. Just blow through
Posted by LSU999
Member since Nov 2012
9263 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:50 am to
The issue is the people getting off the interstate. There is almost nonstop traffic going to and from Walker, so the cars trying to get into the roundabout don`t have the time to get into it with constant traffic coming their way.

They put the on interstate lane from Walker in the roundabout past the off interstate lane going to Walker which means two lanes of cars are coming at the same time or a little slower than the other cars, which leaves the traffic from BR at a standstill. The Yield signs are too far away from the off interstate lane in my opinion.

The roundabout in Hammond has had it`s issues. All one lane roundabouts work if used properly. The design in Walker is flawed. They could`ve easily just added a turn lane to the interstate instead of the roundabout and the issues would`ve been eliminated. Somebody wanted to get paid.

Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:53 am to
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I agree with that,trust me i see it a lot.but part of me thinks DOTD likes to throw traffic circles at problem intersections just to claim "it's fixed" without much effort.i mean traffic circles aren't new...stop lights replaced them back in the day.


Traffic circles require more space for higher traffic intersections.

State gets grants to install traffic circles. They work much better and more efficiently than traffic lights.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61451 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:56 am to
Are they going to continue to use the old offramp for cars turning right off of the interstate? If so, the outer lane on the new "offramp" seems redundant.
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
11440 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:57 am to
Better get used to them in Livingston. 3 are coming on Juban Road north of I-12 to US-190.
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4975 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:00 am to
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They have roundabouts in New Roads


No.

quote:

Livingston is special.


Yes.
Posted by thegambler
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
2216 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:02 am to

Here are a couple

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Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61346 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:03 am to
the lines and lanes of that roundabout are incorrect btw.

it needs to be paved over and repainted with clear designated and correct lanes.

Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6306 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:03 am to
Most roundabouts are great. This one is poorly designed. There is not enough separation between the southbound and eastbound entrances to the roundabout.
The unconventional lyout of the eastbound entrance causes lots of problems.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:05 am to
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The issue is the people getting off the interstate.


Personally, I think the roundabout in question should have been designed with a larger radius. The size vs the amount of traffic using the exit doesn't allow for traffic to move quickly enough within the circle. Granted, some of this issue is due to the idiots who can't understand it, but some of the issue is not.

I am a big believer in roundabouts which are designed correctly and in the proper locations. They are NOT a blanket solution everywhere though, which sometimes appears to be the thinking of some.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216685 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:07 am to
A roundabout at Juban and 190 will be a nightmare for those trying to go right on 190 from the interstate....
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:12 am to
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Hey Look It's Big Bend


So close.
Posted by LSU Wayne
Walker
Member since Apr 2005
4477 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:13 am to
why they didn't start that project by expanding the 447 bridge to 4 lanes that crosses I-12 is beyond me.

The merging onto the 2-lane bridge causes congestion that backs up through the roundabout and backs all the way up onto the shoulder of I-12 during rush hour. This is a big part of the problem.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61346 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:13 am to
Yep - there are several roundabouts in LP already - all work great except this one...

1. It's too small for the flow of traffic.
2. You are forced into one lane to go eastbound on the interstate and then forced to change lanes to actually get on the interstate - which ISN'T how roundabouts are supposed to work
3. It is poorly lit
4. The indicators are in the wrong spots
5. The lanes aren't wide enough
6. The exits and entries have angles that are too tight

If the roundabout had the hammond design it would be much better.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 9:14 am
Posted by CypressTrout10
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2016
3152 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:21 am to
The Hammond roundabouts are the greatest thing to ever happen in that city
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:23 am to
Not setting the bar very high.
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