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re: Teacher accidentally fires gun in class and injures three students
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:38 am to Adam Banks
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:38 am to Adam Banks
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Yet everybody says that arming teachers is going to instantly lead to bad outcomes
Arming teachers in a heavy responsible gun owner state like Texas is clearly different than a place like California.
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Less gun incidents than unarmed schools.
I'd say that's not because 17% of schools in Texas have armed teachers.
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:41 am to SheManShe
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teaching a course about gun safety
what not to doPosted on 3/14/18 at 8:44 am to Volvagia
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That was a literal accident. Compared to this case where the teacher deliberately fired his weapon.
Both are unacceptable from a trained officer. Both can happen if we arm teachers. Some seem to think people become impervious to dumb decisions and acting unsafely just because they're trained.
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17% of Texas is larger than most states.
But it's a speck compared to the amount of schools nationwide. And it's a small, very specific sample size.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:47 am to TH03
The statistics are overwhelming not arming our teachers is killing our kids
In the last month nationwide
Gun related incidents in districts with no sanctioned armed teachers-2
Gun related incidents in districts with sanctioned armed teachers-0
In the last month nationwide
Gun related incidents in districts with no sanctioned armed teachers-2
Gun related incidents in districts with sanctioned armed teachers-0
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:55 am to Volvagia
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have something to defend themselves
This doesn't solve the mental health issue. You have crazy teachers out there sleeping with 12 year olds, cursing students out, and even some physically abuses others by fighting. BUT you want to give them a readily available firearm and have their mental state to be the deciding factor in someone's life
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:57 am to Adam Banks
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The statistics are overwhelming not arming our teachers is killing our kids
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The statistics are overwhelming
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overwhelming
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:04 am to SheManShe
It’s clear arming teachers with firearms will not be the answer.
I know many teachers that have no business trying to educate youth, let alone be anywhere near a gun.
I know many teachers that have no business trying to educate youth, let alone be anywhere near a gun.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:06 am to SCndaBR
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This doesn't solve the mental health issue. You have crazy teachers out there sleeping with 12 year olds, cursing students out, and even some physically abuses others by fighting. BUT you want to give them a readily available firearm and have their mental state to be the deciding factor in someone's life
There are valid arguments against arming teachers. This is not one of them.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:07 am to bbeck
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It’s clear
From what?
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know many teachers that have no business trying to educate youth, let alone be anywhere near a gun.
Great. Don't let them have a gun. Where has anyone argued they every teacher should be made to have a gun?
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:09 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Where has anyone argued they every teacher should be made to have a gun?
A lot of threads in the immediate aftermath of the Florida school shooting.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:09 am to SheManShe
If he was properly trained he would have known to put his hand over the muzzle before taking the test shot.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:15 am to IllegalPete
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Alexander was pointing his gun at the ceiling when it fired.
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The teacher had just told the class that he wanted to make sure his gun wasn't loaded, when the gun fired,
quote:this is all fishy.
the teacher, who is a reserve officer for the Sand City Police Department, apologized.
quote:so is this.
But no one at the school checked to make sure that all of the students were uninjured, Gonzales said. The school day resumed as normal, and Seaside Police Department officers launched an investigation.
The 17-year-old boy's parents were shocked when he returned home with blood on his shirt and bullet fragments in his neck. The student's parents rushed him to a hospital for X-rays.
"He's shaken up, but he's going to be OK," Gonzales told KSBW. "I'm just pretty upset that no one told us anything and we had to call the police ourselves to report it."
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:21 am to TH03
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A lot of threads in the immediate aftermath of the Florida school shooting.
They said every single teacher should be made to carry a gun? Please link one.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:23 am to CarRamrod
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so is this
Yea, it is really weird. What type of ceiling do those schools have for starters?
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:28 am to SheManShe
So this teacher brought a gun to where they are not allowed and it "went off" while he was checking to see if it was loaded, illegally teaching "gun safety" for no apparent reason. And just in time for the student walkout.
Yeah, orchestrated.
Yeah, orchestrated.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:35 am to Snipe
quote:It's not? A trained reserve officer? I'm sure if vetted he turns out clean and yet is still a complete fricking moron.
No these are not the folks you want armed in schools.
Don't even try to read past what really happened here--an individual trained in the proper handling of firearms sent 3 students to the hospital because he ignored his training. That's why teachers can't carry firearms at school. Seal it, stamp it, and mail that bitch!!!
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:35 am to IllegalPete
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The teacher had just told the class that he wanted to make sure his gun wasn't loaded, when the gun fired, according to Gonzales.
Unacceptable. That's something that needs to be checked before you bring a gun into a classroom full of students.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:35 am to blueboy
quote:I don't know what this means
"went off"
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:37 am to SheManShe
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A teacher who also serves as a reserve police officer accidentally fired a gun inside a Seaside High School classroom Tuesday, police said, and three students were injured. Dennis Alexander was teaching a course about gun safety for his Administration of Justice class when his gun went off at 1:20 p.m.
Maga
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:38 am to SheManShe
I'll bet CNN is pissed it wasn't four students so they could add it to the mass school shooting counter.
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