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Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:41 am to King George
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Don't even try to read past what really happened here--an individual trained in the proper handling of firearms
He wasn't.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:43 am to GetCocky11
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Why is he doing this in a public school?
Better question is why is he doing this in a public school, with a REAL firearm that he clearly uses for carry or self defense with one in th chamber. If he’s a reserve police officer then he clearly has access to those blue fake guns that every firearms instruction class ever uses, no?
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:44 am to SheManShe
The Four Rules
All guns are always loaded.
Never point the gun at anything you are not willing to destroy.
Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target (and you have made the decision to shoot).
Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.
All guns are always loaded.
Never point the gun at anything you are not willing to destroy.
Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target (and you have made the decision to shoot).
Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:45 am to GoCrazyAuburn
all teachers
give them a reason to carry
should we arm teachers?
arm the teachers
Later, more specific ideas came in about training certain teachers or ones who volunteered.
give them a reason to carry
should we arm teachers?
arm the teachers
Later, more specific ideas came in about training certain teachers or ones who volunteered.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:49 am to King George
quote:Well, and reserve officers, and by implied extension, officers, all because of this bizarre, randomly illegal act. That is convenient as shite.
That's why teachers can't carry firearms at school.
The only solution is mass confiscation. Right?
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 10:02 am
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:52 am to TH03
quote:
all teachers
give them a reason to carry
should we arm teachers?
arm the teachers
Later, more specific ideas came in about training certain teachers or ones who volunteered.
So, besides the first one, not a single one says anything about forcing every single teacher to carry a gun? You got me though, you found one poster. The rest all state allowing teachers to be armed. It does not say the school should force all the teachers to carry.
There is a difference in allowing teachers to carry guns and forcing every single one of them to do it. If you don't recognize that difference, then there is no helping you.
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 9:56 am
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:58 am to GoCrazyAuburn
Don't preach about
Only one of my examples used the language allowed.
We're talking about the same distinction, but you're trying your hardest to discredit the notion that some people want all teachers armed.
And for the record, I think arming teachers at all is a dumb idea. Won't solve anything.
quote:
If you don't recognize that difference, then there is no helping you.
Only one of my examples used the language allowed.
We're talking about the same distinction, but you're trying your hardest to discredit the notion that some people want all teachers armed.
And for the record, I think arming teachers at all is a dumb idea. Won't solve anything.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:00 am to TH03
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Only one of my examples used the language allowed.
We're talking about the same distinction, but you're trying your hardest to discredit the notion that some people want all teachers armed.
And for the record, I think arming teachers at all is a dumb idea. Won't solve anything.
I'm not discrediting anything. I asked where is anyone said that every teacher should be made to carry a gun. You found one poster and tried to lump in a bunch of others to make it look like you proved your point. Then go on and try and argue because only one thread used the actual word "allowed" that I'm playing the semantics game.
Every single other one you linked talks about getting rid of gun free zones, having a few armed teachers, and allowing concealed carry. Not a single one of them is talking about the schools making it mandatory to carry guns, which was the point you responded to.
You found one poster though. Good job.
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 10:02 am
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:05 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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I'm not discrediting anything. I asked where is anyone said that every teacher should be made to carry a gun. You found one poster and tried to lump in a bunch of others to make it look like you proved your point.
1 said arm all
1 said arm
1 said allowed
1 said to provide an incentive to carry
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Then go on and try and argue because only one thread used the actual word "allowed" that I'm playing the semantics game.
You started the semantics game with the "forced to carry" line. I'm only following your lead.
quote:
Not a single one of them is talking about the schools making it mandatory to carry guns, which was the point you responded to.
Talk about semantics...
quote:
You found one poster though. Good job.
You only asked for one, but apparently that isn't enough. Even when I provided a couple similar examples.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:07 am to el Gaucho
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Just the conservative teachers that teach football and history.
The drunks who barely graduated from college?
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:09 am to TH03
quote:
1 said arm all
1 said arm
1 said allowed
1 said to provide an incentive to carry
Great. Did you actually read the post or any of the thread? Besides the first one, none of them said anything about forcing any teacher to carry a gun.
quote:
You started the semantics game with the "forced to carry" line. I'm only following your lead.
Uh, you do realize what I was responding to right? Guy said there should be some teachers that shouldn't carry a gun. I agreed and wanted proof of anyone arguing all teachers should be made to carry guns. That isn't semantics, that is the parameters of the discussion.
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Not a single one of them is talking about the schools making it mandatory to carry guns, which was the point you responded to.
Talk about semantics...
Again, it isn't semantics when it is the point being argued. You are the one that responded to my point about forcing all teachers to carry guns. If you didn't like the parameters, you shouldn't have responded.
quote:
You only asked for one, but apparently that isn't enough. Even when I provided a couple similar examples.
I conceded you won in my first response. You found the one. Sorry i didn't announce it in a grandiose enough fashion for you though. The other examples are not similar though
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 10:11 am
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:11 am to Twenty 49
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They're not supposed to, and this one did not, but experts consulted on the story said it could have damned well gone off under the circumstances.
Lol no.
The high explosives need to go off is a particular sequence so refined that ordinary electronics aren’t precise enough in order to go nuclear. When you hear about a failed test it is typically due to that. You have a sphere of shaped plastic explosives that compresses the sub critical mass into a critical density.
The difficulty of acquiring nuclear weapons is only in step steps: acquiring fissionable material, and getting that sequence right.
Modern weapons with clever quirks also distort the mass in a way to amplify the future stages.
A fuel explosion would only at most detonate one side first.
You might get a dirty bomb of radiation release from a conventional explosive in the presence of nuclear material. Maybe that’s what your experts were worried about.
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 10:12 am
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:12 am to GoCrazyAuburn
quote:
Sorry i didn't announce it in a grandiose enough fashion for you though.
Asks for one example
Is shown one along with 3 similar sentiments
Keeps arguing
Am I looking in a god damn mirror?
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:14 am to Volvagia
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:15 am to TH03
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Asks for one example
And I admitted you found one and proved me wrong in my first post. Do you want more validation or something?
quote:
Is shown one along with 3 similar sentiments
Keeps arguing
I argued that these are not similar. They aren't.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:17 am to GoCrazyAuburn
I don't give a shite about validation, I was making a joke.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:17 am to TH03
quote:
I don't give a shite about validation
Clearly.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:18 am to TH03
quote:why do you think 98% of all mass shootings since 1950 have taken place in gun free zones?
Won't solve anything.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:22 am to joeyb147
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why do you think 98% of all mass shootings since 1950 have taken place in gun free zones?
Why is Chicago's murder rate 24 in 100k even though they have tough gun laws there?
Crminals don't obey laws.
Gun free zones are stupid, but I still don't think teachers with guns are the answer though.
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