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re: Sugar industry is today's TOBACCO industry

Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:36 am to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:36 am to
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From the documentary, did you ever notice how sugars are the only percent of daily allowance not included on the standard nutrition labels? Sugar lobby got the govt to leave it off. Because people would lose their shite if they knew how much they were consuming.


Again, what does this have to do with being "bad for you?"

Yeah, they'd shite because they realize they're intaking 2000 calories of sugar, but that doesn't make it any less or more bad for you.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:36 am to
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This is not true. Your body does not need ANY sugar. In fact you'd be healthier without it.




Yes it does for insulin production. And my use of "sugar" there was very broad. It didn't solely mean table sugar. There is plenty of sugar in whole grain breads to meet the needs of most people. Without it in your system, your body can go into ketosis, which despite the Keto diet claims is not a healthy state to be in long term.

Perhaps I should have just said carbs.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:37 am to
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Metabolism slows with age. The calories you consumed in your 20's burned off faster than the ones you consume in your 40's


Myth

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you miserable dumb failure of basic science.

Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19949 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:38 am to
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You should watch the documentary.


You should go back a redo those biology classes you failed.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:39 am to
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Sugar is basically the devil and is rotting this nation to death


Inactivity. People have eaten sugar forever and we've never had this bad of a weight issue. Everything in moderation.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38676 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:40 am to
Dude STFU please, you have no clue what you are talking about and are essentially the equivalent of an anti vaxer







Stop falling for the bullshite. Bottom line is carbs and sugar are not bad so long as you do not go over your caloric maintenance and eat your protein requirements(examine.com has the studies on protein requirements for different groups)
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:40 am to
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Inactivity.


Shout it for the people in the back.

Nobody does anything anymore.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:42 am to
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tabacco
I had a tour guide in Cozumel that pronounced it like that when I was thirteen
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38676 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:46 am to
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While I understand your statement doesn't heavy starch food like bread and pasta turn into sugar and most Americans are not active enough to compensate for this?

You are saying


Every study and meta analysis shows that so long as you are meeting your caloric requirements for your particular goals and eating the correct amount of protein for your age/activity levels/requirements that the rest of the macronutrient make up of the rest of the diet matters very little.

Sure nutritional timing can help with nutrition partitioning, but in the grand scheme it's not gonna make a big difference. Below is the pyramid of fat loss from Dr Layne Norton's fat loss forever book

Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
15232 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:48 am to
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As a sugarcane farmer, I have to say that you need to get your facts straight.


Everybody listen to Big Sugar.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19949 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:49 am to
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Myth


That would be you having an IQ above room temperature kid.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
11198 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:52 am to
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Every study and meta analysis shows that so long as you are meeting your caloric requirements for your particular goals and eating the correct amount of protein for your age/activity levels/requirements that the rest of the macronutrient make up of the rest of the diet matters very little.

Sure nutritional timing can help with nutrition partitioning, but in the grand scheme it's not gonna make a big difference. Below is the pyramid of fat loss from Dr Layne Norton's fat loss forever book



Thanks for the link!

So I lost 25lbs 2 years ago and have kept it off by following a Keto diet for about 6 months. Now after initial weight loss I do not "Keto" any longer just do not eat or drink sugary foods or drinks. I also do not eat pasta, breads, or potatoes except in small portions but do eat enough not to be in ketosis.

I do agree age has nothing to do with it because when I stated eating healthy I lost weight just like when I was younger. I think people are just more active when younger and the reason they kept weight off I know that was the case of me.


Posted by Blueprint
Member since Apr 2018
2187 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:54 am to
Where did they talk about weight? They are just saying that we consume too much sugar and it’s 100percent true.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17754 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:56 am to
The sugar refinery in Chalmette produces 7M lbs of sugar everyday. And that’s just 1 of several refineries nationwide

Let that sink in
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:56 am to
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That would be you having an IQ above room temperature kid.


Can you provide a link that says metabolism materially slows down because I can provide some that say matabolism in your 40s still functions ~95% as it does in your 20s
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37562 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:59 am to
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Funny how that works, you believe a fricking movie over the actual science.


So you think no science or expert opinion was included in the documentary? Ok.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:00 am to
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Inactivity.


It's a combination of inactivity and poor diet. I'm not as active as I should be, but maintain a healthy weight because I watch what I eat. My co-worker is at the gym 3-4 days a week, and is overweight because he eats like shite. Anecdotal, but it comes down to caloric intake and outtake. He obviously consumes more calories than he burns, while I consume jsut enough to maintain my weight at a healthy level.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19949 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:01 am to
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Nobody does anything anymore.


If half the morons that blame sugar could see what comes through military BCT versus 20 years ago they'd realize how true this statement is. Recruits are so physically (and mentally) weak that it's impossible to get a significant number them to a point that they can reliably pass the three-event APFT in one BCT cycle. The new PT test is going create platoons of holdovers due to injuries and failures instead of the few squads we have now.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38676 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:02 am to
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Where did they talk about weight? They are just saying that we consume too much sugar and it’s 100percent true


In what context? It doesn't cause health issues in a normal healthy person if not ingested in a caloric deficit or at caloric maintenance levels. Plenty of studies support this.

All of you getting upset at me for posting the truth, go look at the scientific data, read it for yourself and make your own conclusions.

My personal opinion is for the average non weight lifting person is total carbohydrate intake should be limited to about 100g a day, simply because that is enough to keep you out of ketosis and allow some dietary flexibility but low enough to make it easy to stay in a caloric deficit. But science says it doesn't matter so long as you are consistent with hitting your calorie & protein targets.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:02 am to
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If half the morons that blame sugar could see what comes through military BCT versus 20 years ago they'd realize how true this statement is. Recruits are so physically (and mentally) weak that it's impossible to get a significant number them to a point that they can reliably pass the three-event APFT in one BCT cycle. The new PT test is going create platoons of holdovers due to injuries and failures instead of the few squads we have now.



There it is.


BLAME THE MILLENNIALS!!!!!!!!!
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