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re: Sugar industry is today's TOBACCO industry
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:13 am to Pelican fan99
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:13 am to Pelican fan99
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yes it is
I just posted summaries of close to a dozen studies showing you are full of shite. Post one scientific study showing sugar or carb free/keto diet shows faster rates of body fat loss when calories and protein are equated. I dare you.
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Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:15 am to lsu777
when the OT and the H/F collide
good times
good times
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:19 am to lsu777
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Sugar doesn't make you fat, eating too many calories makes you fat. Quit trying to pass blame.
You should watch the documentary. That is an antiquated, and wrong, belief. All calories are NOT created equally.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:24 am to Mike da Tigah
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Wrong. It’s corn, or in particular HFCS
Get your story straight
How is this, they're both terrible for you and both should be cut back on.
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In your digestive system, sugar is broken down into fructose and glucose — so corn syrup and sugar end up looking exactly the same.
Gram for gram, HFCS 55 has slightly higher levels of fructose than regular sugar. The difference is very small and not particularly relevant from a health perspective.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:25 am to lsu777
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Read the studies.
I've read a handful of studies, some saying it is addictive, some saying it is not. My experience with eliminating sugar from my diet once leads me to believe it is addictive. I felt like crap and had intense sugar cravings for 3-4 days. To me, that was my body telling me to give it the sugar it had gotten addicted to. I'm not a Keto fanboy and not defending that diet because it has its own set of problems. I only brought it up as it related to my experience.
Perhaps that's a very loose definition of addiction, I'll admit. But I also think there's a stigma attached to the word addiction.
But it's a pointless debate because I mostly agree that caloric intake is more important that anything as it pertains to weight gain/loss/maintenance. Everything in moderation.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:26 am to Chucktown_Badger
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You should watch the documentary. That is an antiquated, and wrong, belief. All calories are NOT created equally.
And you should read actual scientific studies like I posted above that show you and your documentary are full of shite.
Funny how that works, you believe a fricking movie over the actual science.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:27 am to lsu777
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lsu777
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:28 am to Hulkklogan
I've basically tried all the diets. When you look at what they are doing, it all boils down to Calories in/out. The only diet that doesn't count calories is the 100% raw food, vegan, halleluiah diet; because you physically cannot eat enough calories on that type of food.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:28 am to Salmon
I think people really over-complicate this stuff.
Society moves less than ever before. We sit in chairs and stare at screens.
We eat more processed food and drink more sugary drinks than ever before. Instead of drinking morning coffee, people drink morning milkshakes from Starbucks.
As a result, we are fatter than ever before.
Solution -- move more, drink more water, eat more prepared foods using ingredients from the produce section.
Society moves less than ever before. We sit in chairs and stare at screens.
We eat more processed food and drink more sugary drinks than ever before. Instead of drinking morning coffee, people drink morning milkshakes from Starbucks.
As a result, we are fatter than ever before.
Solution -- move more, drink more water, eat more prepared foods using ingredients from the produce section.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:28 am to lsu777
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Do you frickers even read studies or do you just believe everything that is posted on social media or on the website you like?
This is a stupid question, to be fair
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:29 am to Chucktown_Badger
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You should watch the documentary. That is an antiquated, and wrong, belief. All calories are NOT created equally.
Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed the doc. But this is basically the equivalent of antivaxers saying, "just look it up on google."
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:30 am to DeafJam73
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Yet sugar consumption is down over the last decade and obesity rates is still rising. Sugar doesn't make you fat, eating too many calories makes you fat. Quit trying to pass blame.
I cut my sugar which in turns cuts empty calories! I lost 25lbs and have kept it off for 2 years buy just doing this simple thing and cutting heavy starch foods. Not stopping just cutting WAY back especially during the week.
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 8:34 am
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:31 am to KLSU
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Then how is the keto diet so successful for losing weight?
...calorie restriction
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:31 am to KLSU
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Then how is the keto diet so successful for losing weight?
It's not anymore successful when you control for calories. It's mainly because if you commit to keto you've committed to actually doing something right and eating how much you say you're going to instead of shoving whatever you see down your gullet.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:32 am to KLSU
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Then how is the keto diet so successful for losing weight?
Because you are eating less overall calories, cutting out a whole macronutrient tends to make that easy to do.
Read the studies I just posted on the previous page.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:33 am to The Spleen
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That said, while it is addicting, it is also a necessary thing for our bodies.
This is not true. Your body does not need ANY sugar. In fact you'd be healthier without it.
From the documentary, did you ever notice how sugars are the only percent of daily allowance not included on the standard nutrition labels? Sugar lobby got the govt to leave it off. Because people would lose their shite if they knew how much they were consuming.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:34 am to KLSU
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Then how is the keto diet so successful for losing weight?
Every diet aimed at losing weight is successful if you're disciplined and stick to it.
Weight Watchers is still probably the best diet out there for weight loss/maintenance. I've adopted my own hybrid diet of Weight Watchers and Keto. I pretty much only eat carbs for one meal every 2 days, and when I do it's almost always whole grains.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:35 am to Cold Drink
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Or more obviously, how do you explain why it’s easier to be skinny in your 20s than in your 40s? I can’t imagine what I’d look like these days if I ate Canes like I did back in college. But according to calories in/calories out, there shouldn’t be any difference
Metabolism slows with age. The calories you consumed in your 20's burned off faster than the ones you consume in your 40's. It's still calories in/calories out, you miserable dumb failure of basic science.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:35 am to theunknownknight
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Eating sugar is worse than drinking Booze
There’s a lot of sugar in booze...
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:36 am to lsu777
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Because you are eating less overall calories, cutting out a whole macronutrient tends to make that easy to do.
While I understand your statement doesn't heavy starch food like bread and pasta turn into sugar and most Americans are not active enough to compensate for this?
You are saying that this doesn't matter its just all about the overall calories?
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