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re: Storm Aftermath - Hurricane Matthew will be Retired

Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

For what it's worth the local reporters are in full on ridiculous mode on television right now. "I just felt the wind pick up!"



Are you watching CBS? That one spanish reporter said she had to put her hoodie back on.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:11 pm to
Good point on the expanded windfield.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
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Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:11 pm to
that's exactly what I was referring to
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:12 pm to
WTF is Nicole doing? Toyng with Bermuda?
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25905 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:13 pm to
Yep that wind will get to a howling roar then you can hear the walls creak every so often when you get a decent gust. Power will likely be out for weeks in some places. Hell Gustav took me out of power for 14 days in Houma. Andrew was the strongest winds i have personally experienced. This thing is nasty top 5 to ever hit FL.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:18 pm to
These storms are a cluster frick out in the Atlantic. One wants to play hopscotch near Bermuda messing with them and the other is currently forecast to loop back around and skull frick Florida again. I sure hope these forecasts are wrong considering they're so far out.
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
14258 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:19 pm to
Wind velocity and wind load

mph = m/s x 2.237

10 m/s is what most would consider an everyday 'strong' 22 mph wind

50 m/s (112 mph) is what some of FL will experience tonight - and then some!

Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40972 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:19 pm to
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Yep that wind will get to a howling roar then you can hear the walls creak every so often when you get a decent gust.


There as some high TS that hit NOLA a couple of months before Katrina. Can't even remember the name but a few weeks after it was retroactively upgraded to a Cat 1. Our house had no damage, but I got little sleep that night. The wind was howling and the walls were shaking and creaking when the gusts picked up. Lost power at some point. About 2 am it calmed down a bit and I walked outside and the sky was orange. Eventually went to work around noon that day.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51682 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:20 pm to
Certainly a little bit of a strange look on radar

Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
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Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:20 pm to
love these threads. Gain a ton of knowledge.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
16074 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:20 pm to
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Yep that wind will get to a howling roar then you can hear the walls creak every so often when you get a decent gust

Yes i have heard that roar before. Probably one of the scariest things ive ever heard. Tommorrow the roar will be back . Yeah prepared to spend at least the next week or more with no power.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:22 pm to
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Slackster, if you don't mind, could you post me a picture of the models much like what you did earlier (spaghetti model going against what NHC was saying as the cone)? As of right now, I'm staying, but I just want to be as informed as possible - and have no idea where you got it from.


Euro



GFS



GFDL



HWRF



Link for model runs



Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

On another board, a poster stated an increase from 145 to 155 equates to 14% more power.

Kinetic Energy= 1/2 * mass * velocity^2


That's true, but the power of a wind field increases with the CUBE of the velocity, not the square. The kinetic energy of a given chunk of wind quadruples if you double the velocity, but power is the rate of energy delivered. While each chunk of wind has four times the energy if you double the velocity, they're moving twice as fast so TWO chunks of wind slam into you in the same amount of time that one chunk would hit you at the original velocity. So, double the velocity and the POWER delivered by the wind is EIGHT times what it was at the original velocity, and that's a cube law.

155^3/145^3 = 1.22, so the increase in power delivered is actually 22%.
This post was edited on 10/6/16 at 1:25 pm
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:23 pm to
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that's exactly what I was referring to



They just showed a dude dabbing in the background on the beach at Singer Island.
Posted by NOLA1128
Member since Dec 2011
3936 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:26 pm to
Slackster, thanks brother. I appreciate it.

Unless something drastically changes at 5, and I can still drive out of here, I'm staying.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51680 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:26 pm to
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My place isn't that far from where you were. We're right on the intracoastal just north of Boynton Beach blvd. the mangroves should hopefully keep some of those trees secure.
Man, I miss Two Georges!
Posted by DeboseKnows
Gainesville
Member since Dec 2012
1756 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:28 pm to
The lulls in rains are awesome, the lake has been slicking out like glass between them. Scared to leave my house because coming back will not be pretty on Saturday..
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:28 pm to
Nicole is now a hurricane with 80 MPH winds. on Tuesday morning she'll be in roughly the same area she is now so we'll deal with her later.
Posted by BananaPeel
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2016
265 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:28 pm to
quote:



That's true, but the power of a wind field increases with the CUBE of the velocity, not the square. The kinetic energy of a given chunk of wind quadruples if you double the velocity, but power is the rate of energy delivered. While each chunk of wind has four times the energy if you double the velocity, they're moving twice as fast so TWO chunks of wind slam into you in the same amount of time that one chunk would hit you at the original velocity. So, double the velocity and the POWER delivered by the wind is EIGHT times what it was at the original velocity.

155^3/145^3 = 1.22, so the increase in power delivered is actually 22%.


I feel so stupid having attempted to understand this.

Posted by UAinSOUTHAL
Mobile,AL
Member since Dec 2012
5298 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:29 pm to
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Certainly a little bit of a strange look on radar


That's the EWRC. Not good. Usually means when it finishes the storm will have an expanded wind field and can also resume strengthening.
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