re: States, running out of money, to lower BAC to .05 for DWI to raise new revenue

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They want to squeeze out every dollar they can before the autonomous cars take over.

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dumb,but i agree with you...i also think that self-driving cars will require a sober person in case it needs to be manually taken over for whatever reason.

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also think that self-driving cars will require a sober person in case it needs to be manually taken over for whatever reason.

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This.

They’ll not let go of that golden goose. Will still have to have a sober operator.

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also think that self-driving cars will require a sober person

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The last I think it was a GMC model automatic didn't even have a steering wheel.

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This is not about raising new revenue. It is about lowering traffic fatalities caused by drunken drivers.

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Anyone who honestly believes this is a fricking retard.

How is lowering the legal limit going to stop people who are already driving over the limit without giving a shite from doing so?

You know what would stop fatalities?

Put a .bac blow lock on all cars. You get it, blow, you're above the limit, your car doesn't start.

But that would effectively end all revenue to police departments.

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Not trolling, brother. I have a 54 year old sister who is about 8 mentally, because a drunk driver decided his convenience was much more important than the safety of other people on the road. Crushed her skull at 2 weeks old, and left her retarded for life.

Believe it or not, there are worse things you can do than kill yourself or someone else, because you wanted to get a little drunk, and drive. Maiming someone for life is one of them, in my opinion. All because someone wanted a buzz, and wasn't responsible enough to do it without putting others at risk. Unforgivable.

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If youre not trolling, I could see someone having this viewpoint- thats a truly terrible to thing to experience, much less watch someone else go through.

That said, I seriously doubt people driving with a BAC of .05-.079 contribute significantly to the 10,000 people killed annually by drunk drivers, which among other things, point me to believe this is not about saving lives.

I have no problem with going after the truly drunk people on the road. Having two beers is not too drunk to drive home.

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The report cites studies indicating most women over 120 pounds would reach 0.05 after two drinks. Men weighing up to about 160 pounds would likely reach the lower threshold at two, and those over 180 pounds at three.

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Are they saying two drinks for a 120 lb woman would have the same effect on a 160 lb man??

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Men weighing up to about 160 pounds

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This is America. 60% of our population is morbidly obese and hasn't weighed under 180 since high school.

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They advocate raising taxes to deter alcohol sales in general.

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So, prohibition. I think most people agree this is not the way to save lives. Look at the wonders the war on drugs has done to save lives and keep the cartels in check.

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It doesn't matter. .05 would be less impaired than .08 and I don't want the people who my loved ones meet on the road to be impaired at all

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Then also please make the following behavioral adjustments:

1) Never, ever, get behind the wheel of a car unless you've had a full 8 hours of sleep the night before. If need be, take a vacation day any time you struggle to get to sleep on time, or call your boss and say you'll be a few hours late to get your full 8 in.

2)Locate the radio of your car, and just rip it out. No need for that distraction

3) You're going to want to avoid all driving when the sun is at a shallow angle (near sunrise and sunset). You never know when you're going to need to turn due West or due East and experience is temporary reduction in vision.

Keep in mind, in most places (if not all) places you CAN get a DUI/DWI if you blow below a 0.08 and show impairment. The 0.08 is just a limit in which the legal consequences of a DUI/DWI kick in automatically, regardless of signs of impairment. In that since, it is ALREADY illegal to drive at a 0.05 if you're impaired.

The only thing that changes with this law is that more people are going to end up in sticky situations at road blocks.

The safety argument is even an "Ends justifies the means" type argument which I would have a hard time getting behind.

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Not trolling, brother. I have a 54 year old sister who is about 8 mentally, because a drunk driver decided his convenience was much more important than the safety of other people on the road. Crushed her skull at 2 weeks old, and left her retarded for life.

Believe it or not, there are worse things you can do than kill yourself or someone else, because you wanted to get a little drunk, and drive. Maiming someone for life is one of them, in my opinion. All because someone wanted a buzz, and wasn't responsible enough to do it without putting others at risk. Unforgivable.

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Sorry to hear that.

With all due respect, your emotions aren't more important than objective fact. Thousands of studies on impaired driving have produced the .08 number. Lowering it to .05 to placate emotions and get more money doesn't equate to saving lives.