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re: States, running out of money, to lower BAC to .05 for DWI to raise new revenue

Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:52 am to
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
25351 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:52 am to
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It proves that it's nothing but a money grab and not really about public safety.


Yep.

The liquor lobbies are pretty strong though, they don’t allow any of this to happen.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14688 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:53 am to
Let me tell you the secret to sticking it to all these government agencies and law enforcement who just want to take your money, and don't care anything about public safety.


DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE!!!

That'll show 'em!

Pretty laughable that some of you want to deride these people because they don't really care about public safety, while you are advocating the right to be more impaired as you operate a 2 ton battering ram. One standard for them and another for you? That's hypocrisy, folks.
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:55 am to
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Cities that don't allow uber or Lyft prove it's all about money as well.

Using Uber and Lyft isn't always a convenient option. Case in point, I go have 2-3 beers after work with coworkers. So I should Uber home, leave my truck and Uber back really early the next morning when I'm in no way impaired? No thanks. I'm 6'3" 225 lbs. My body laughs at 3 beers.

I absolutely use it when the wife and I go out on date night and plan on drinking more than 2-3
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 9:58 am
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
125096 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:55 am to
Do you realize how low .05 is? Or are you advocating for this change because that's what your pastor would want?
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
45432 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:56 am to
if states want to reduce drinking and increase revenue without putting their citizens in jail, there is a simple solution, do what Colorado did- legalize weed.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139231 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:56 am to
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Pretty laughable that some of you want to deride these people because they don't really care about public safety, while you are advocating the right to be more impaired as you operate a 2 ton battering ram. One standard for them and another for you? That's hypocrisy, folks

Having 2 drinks with dinner only produces impairment when the law is changed.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:57 am to
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Pretty laughable that some of you want to deride these people because they don't really care about public safety, while you are advocating the right to be more impaired as you operate a 2 ton battering ram


A little too strong, 6.5/10. You have to start out more subtle.

Wheres LucasP when you need him?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58631 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:58 am to
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I would be cool with more people treating it as such

i would be cool with you zipping your lips but you rambling on and on with your shitty opinion isnt illegal is it.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58631 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:59 am to
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how many do drunk drivers kill?
not condoning drunk driving but probably a lot less than drunk drivers dont kill.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22268 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:02 am to
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It also calls for cracking down on sales to people under 21 or who are already intoxicated to discourage binge drinking


Isn't the legal age in Utah 21, or can you buy if you're under 21 as long as you're sober? Why wouldn't they crack down on selling of any alcohol to someone under 21? Or do they just want to make sure they collect on that revenue first, as long as they are sober.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:04 am to
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Why wouldn't they crack down on selling of any alcohol to someone under 21?


Its a MADD talking point that they are lobbying for. All alcohol is evil in their eyes.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17385 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:08 am to
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We should ban cell phones from being inside cars as well. Equally as dangerous.



Cell phones are probably more dangerous because I see dipshits every day driving and looking at one.

But it would make too much sense to go after them (the most prevalent driving offenders) than a DUI.

I am not saying drinking and driving is ok (its not) but if they want to increase revenue they should go after the people causing the most accidents. Texting and driving.
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:11 am to
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Cell phones are probably more dangerous because I see dipshits every day driving and looking at one.

I'll probably pass 15 people on my way home today staring at their phones. It's a massive problem.
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 10:14 am
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14688 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:11 am to
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Do you realize how low .05 is? Or are you advocating for this change because that's what your pastor would want?


It doesn't matter. .05 would be less impaired than .08 and I don't want the people who my loved ones meet on the road to be impaired at all.

This isn't that hard. Drink at home, or get a ride.

As far as my pastor, he can come to my house right now, have a beer, a nice old fashioned, or a shot of tequila. If he does, I'm sure he'll be responsible enough to not put other people at additional risk getting home.
Posted by AFtigerFan
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2008
3795 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:12 am to
Lots of misinformation in this thread, or at least a lack of reading.

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States, running out of money, to lower BAC to .05 for DWI to raise new revenue Anybody who thinks cops, DAs, etc. give a frick about the public safety need to read the last two words of the above quote.
That quote is nowhere in the article. This is just the OP's opinion of what this is about. This is not about raising new revenue. It is about lowering traffic fatalities caused by drunken drivers.

Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
15338 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:13 am to
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States, running out of money, to lower BAC to .05 for DWI to raise new revenue


Thats what happens when your "elected officials" raid the coffers and line their pockets.\

There will never be "enough" revenue.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14688 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:14 am to
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Having 2 drinks with dinner only produces impairment when the law is changed.


Depending on your size, what, and how much you eat.
Posted by AFtigerFan
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2008
3795 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:14 am to
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It calls for lowering the blood-alcohol concentration threshold from 0.08 to 0.05. How is that going to raise revenue if the sell less alcohol
It's not because that isn't what the article or study is suggesting. Nowhere in the article does it suggest that the goal is to raise revenue.
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recommended that states significantly increase alcohol taxes and make alcohol less conveniently available, including reducing the hours and days alcohol is sold in stores, bars and restaurants. If they sell less alcohol..how does that raise revenue?
Now you are seeing the point. This is to decrease sales, thus decreasing the amount of drunken drivers on the road, thus decreasing the traffic fatalities attributed to drunken drivers.
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U.S. government-commissioned report by a panel of the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine fricking tards

Yes, yes you are. Even if you don't agree with lowering the BAC to .05, at least do a better job of understanding what the article is about.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139231 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:15 am to
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Depending on your size, what, and how much you eat.

Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:15 am to
So instead of legalizing marijuana they're going to try alcohol prohibition again?

Welfare reform
Tax reform
Lobby reform
Education reform

That would free up a shite load of money.

Why is the government so fricking stupid?
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 10:17 am
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