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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:26 pm to
Posted by schwag
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2014
304 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:26 pm to
Wasn't the guy in the "purple drank" video yelling about MB stealing Rellos?
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74855 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:27 pm to
quote:

At what point does shoplifting becomes robbery?


when a person is assaulted or threatened so they give up their property.

If Brown would have walked out without touching {Patel} then it would be shoplifting. When he was stopped he used force to continue the crime.

I'm not a lawyer but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express one time.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74855 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:28 pm to
quote:

saw cigars in Brown's hand and realized he might be the robber.


I think too, when a cop sees blunt cigars in a persons hand they think pot.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129658 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:28 pm to
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Is it that he has a sealed juvi record so technically they can say he has no record?

Probably
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88307 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:28 pm to
Wasn't the radio caller before the police chief's first news conference today?

I guess what I meant was that there was an initial confrontation that had nothing to do with the robbery then a second one where DE connected the dots.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 5:30 pm
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:28 pm to
Flip to CNN, some whackjob with a wanna be don King hair cut.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

Wasn't the radio caller before the police chief's first news conference today?



yes
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134995 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

I think too, when a cop sees blunt cigars in a persons hand they think pot.



Well duh.

I don't think I've EVER seen a person actually smoke a philly blunt.
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
6084 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:29 pm to
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Looks like the police dept is prancing some local black cop around on the streets to pacify the blacks. And it's working with many of them. They're treating him like a rock star.




Long as the checks keep coming.... They DGAF
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85742 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:30 pm to
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crazy


Like I said though, if he was aware of the cigars being stolen, he would have known the description of the suspects.

Shits not adding up

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129658 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

I guess what I mean was that there was an initial confrontation that had nothing to do with the robbery then a second one where DE connected the dots.

He just told the Post Disgust that. Apparently he needed to cover the officer's story that was not released in coordination.

No, I don't have proof of it. But this drip drip drip of information from a guy who said we can't have anything until the investigation is complete is BS.
Posted by rsylve
Terrytown, LA
Member since Feb 2013
3972 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:31 pm to
So if a security guard tries to stop a shoplifter then he gets run over at the door it then becomes robbery/assault? Damn.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:32 pm to
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Like I said though, if he was aware of the cigars being stolen, he would have known the description of the suspects.



not necessarily, the original call quite possibly didn't mention the description. He could have overheard the dispatch call.

example: "Dispatch to unit ***, report to *** for a signal **, robbery, subjects stole cigars.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70176 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:33 pm to
5th paragraph in OP
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12464 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:33 pm to
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How in the hell does a guy that would reach across a store counter, steal items and then shove a poor guy into a snack rack in broad daylight and in front of people not have a record?


Yes - I highly suspect we were not watching his crime cherry pop on that video. Way to brazen for a first timer.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
21004 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:33 pm to
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On the CCTV footage, Mike Brown hands Dorian Johnson a pack of cigars. Johnson puts the pack back down on the counter before leaving the store.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

5th paragraph in OP





quote:

“I know they killed my son," McSpadden told an acquaintance. "This was wrong and it was cold-hearted."

Her son, she continued, "doesn't kill, steal or rob. He doesn't do any of that.”
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:34 pm to
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On the CCTV footage, Mike Brown hands Dorian Johnson a pack of cigars. Johnson puts the pack back down on the counter before leaving the store.


he puts the box, it looks like he took the packs out of the box.. but there may be a second box he took. can't tell

eta: just saw on cnn they put them in a bag.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 5:35 pm
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85742 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

Wasn't the radio caller before the police chief's first news conference today?

I guess what I meant was that there was an initial confrontation that had nothing to do with the robbery then a second one where DE connected the dots.


Yes, everyone is now stating the initial contact was a "Get out of the street"

The caller is saying that Darren got the call about the robbery as he was pulling away with descriptions of the suspect.... The Chief is saying that Darren suddenly put 2 and 2 together as he was pulling away that the cigars were likely from the Robbery.

And again, my two issues

1) Why didn't the chief clarify all of this all of this the first time when he said "Darren didn't confront them about the robbery"
2) If he knew about the cigars, he knew the description of the perps
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70176 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:36 pm to
From the beginning I thought that was a strange way for a mom to describe her son
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