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re: St. George's Petition Has Been Verified!

Posted on 2/25/19 at 4:51 pm to
Posted by SetTheMood
The Red Stick
Member since Jul 2012
3182 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 4:51 pm to
I'm a Mid-City baw...



But good for St. George for making it happen. The bullshite in this city needs to stop. Hope my property value doesn't fall off the map.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7838 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 4:51 pm to
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Don't discount how many fake signatures TBR instigated to torpedo the process, hoping the STG organizers wouldn't have enough surplus signatures.


Trust me, this time they didn't get that many. There were only 23 removals submitted. 6 signed then removed, 2 are not in St. George, and 15 never signed the petition.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53806 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 4:53 pm to
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But good for St. George for making it happen. The bullshite in this city needs to stop. Hope my property value doesn't fall off the map.

You'll be fine. A lot of people in BR put their kids in private school by choice and I don't see that stopping.

Me and all of my siblings went to private school and we lived in Central in a perfectly fine public school district.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43033 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 4:58 pm to
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So I understand all of that... but I am struggling with is the idea of how high taxes will need to be to support St. George.

To support the city of SG, proponents say no new taxes. We pay more than enough now to provide the services SG the city would provide.

Opponents dispute this, but opponents also say forming a city and removing taxes paid by folks in SG now would devestate the parish budget.

Does that add up?

quote:


If you are breaking out, that also means small number of tax payers into the system. What is that going to look like? Also, what are the taxes covering, etc.


This SG city movement is not a breakaway. Unincorporated folks are simply forming a new city. Now if an ISD is formed later it would be breaking off the current, failing school system.

Some SG taxes now going to the general parish fund would go to the new city of SG to cover basic city services as outlined on the SG website.

LINK

Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
15933 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 5:04 pm to
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When you have opponents who constantly brand you as racist, just sitting idly by in a contest and taking the high road will bite you in the arse every single time.


This is what the TogetherBR folks either failed to realize or simply didn't care. They immediately played the race card and a lot of people are sick and tired of it.
Posted by topdollarbill
Shenandoah, LA
Member since Mar 2013
213 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 5:12 pm to
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As an aside, CATS might want to start advertising about 75% of their fleet for sale when we don’t have to pay for that boondoggle anymore.


No part of proposed STG area currently pays CATS tax.

The CATS taxing district mirrors the City of Baton Rouge, not the Parish.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
88368 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 5:18 pm to
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Baton Rouge Mayor Sharon Weston Broome released the following statement in response to the news:

"Today we learned that the East Baton Rouge Parish Registrar of Voters verified the signatures needed to put the proposed City of St. George measure on the ballot. This proposition significantly affects every resident of East Baton Rouge Parish. If and when an election is scheduled, it is my hope that the election date is one in which high voter turnout is anticipated.



but that 30 year, $1 billion road tax? Let’s stash that one on a low turnout ballot
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43033 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 5:21 pm to
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No part of proposed STG area currently pays CATS tax.

The CATS taxing district mirrors the City of Baton Rouge, not the Parish.

Correct, but folks living in SG do pay other taxes that provide revenues to CATS
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53806 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 5:22 pm to
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but that 30 year, $1 billion road tax? Let’s stash that one on a low turnout ballot

St George is predominantly red. High voter turnout almost guarantees it will pass
Posted by topdollarbill
Shenandoah, LA
Member since Mar 2013
213 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 5:28 pm to
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Correct, but folks living in SG do pay other taxes that provide revenues to CATS


What taxes would those be? Nothing local. CATS gets no revenues from City Parish General Fund.

I guess you could argue that CATS receives federal dollars and that's our money... Which is true, but that's a pretty broad brush.

Unless you live in the CATS taxing district, or you are a user of the system, you really don't pay for CATS.

Property Tax wise, nothing will change if STG happens.

STG residents will still pay for BREC and Library System. It may be possible to get out of these at sometime in the future but that's years down the line.

Eventually, once the school system crap is figured out, you may see a difference in taxing authorities.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7838 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 5:29 pm to
and St. George turned around and submitted 97 more signatures in support the same day.
Posted by TigerGrad2011
Member since Aug 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 5:45 pm to
About time. Let the people vote and have a choice instead of the status quo.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
131086 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 5:54 pm to
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Let’s stash that one on a low turnout ballot

Considering how long it’s been known when people would vote on this and with all the people supposedly against it, it wouldn’t make much sense for people to not show up to vote.
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 5:57 pm
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10962 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 5:54 pm to
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 6:02 pm to
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You're assuming they have a plan.


This is at least the 2nd time they've put out a plan.
Posted by OneSaintsFan
St. George, La
Member since Jan 2009
1928 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 6:47 pm to
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A lot of Magas are going to shell out way more money than they need to for homes if this goes through. And Five years from now they will be wondering WTF happened to the White-topia they thought they were getting.


That’s the most redicilous statement. I’ve lived in my house four or five years and want a good public school to send my kid to so I don’t have to pay tuition. The one we are zoned for is a few min away and is a D or F.

I could give two fricks about a “white-topia” if that was my goal i would have never moved here from Livingston Parish. That’s the kind of random bullshite the other side will try to throw to distract from the issues. Let’s work off of facts.

Edit:
You have a huge chunk of the parish currently unincorporated who are tired of being over taxed, not having their issues addressed and most importantly not have access to great public schools.
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 6:58 pm
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:06 pm to
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Don't discount how many fake signatures TBR instigated to torpedo the process,


this, they had people sign, then on last day, demand their name taken off the signature list. they hoped it would help them sink the project. The numbers who did this, was so few it did nothing, it was a great FU to the brt peeps.


This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 7:10 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:17 pm to
They should really look at what Sandy Springs Ga did when they incorporated. Everything is private---everything.

LINK

It keeps those hidden cost of employees from biting the taxpayers. Underfunded pensions and lifetime healthcare for example.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13712 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:30 pm to
don’t live inside the area, but my daughter graduates from SJA this year. I hope this is the impetus of change in the EBR education system
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80812 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:41 pm to
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They should really look at what Sandy Springs Ga did when they incorporated. Everything is private---everything.


How it should be done IMO
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