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re: St. George's Petition Has Been Verified!

Posted on 2/26/19 at 8:17 am to
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104440 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 8:17 am to
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ean ST G escape the insanely high sales tax of EBR or are they bound to that?


Pretty sure they are bound to anything that's "EBR" like BREC, Library, Council on Aging, sales tax, etc. unless there is a future split between Parish and City government.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43033 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 8:24 am to
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ean ST G escape the insanely high sales tax of EBR or are they bound to that?


Basically all that changes is control of the 2% parish tax that is currently paid. Instead of going to the parish general fund, it would go to the SG treasury.
Fees, license fees, etc. would also go to SG.

I don't know if those taxes and fees could be lowered, but maybe they could.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104440 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 8:26 am to
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I don't know if those taxes and fees could be lowered, but maybe they could.


Probably, if the Metro Council voted to put it on the ballot and the public voted for it.

If they can put new taxes to a public vote, they can take them away the same way, I would assume.
Posted by mmonro3
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2013
4278 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 8:35 am to
Gravy has spoken!
Let’s talk about how the proposed City of St. George is just another form of legalized segregation.

Conservatives are the majority on the council. Literally they have 7 members which is what it takes to pass any measure. This St. George conversation is new white flight. When it seems that blacks are going to get a fair shake it’s somehow wrong. 98% of contracts in Baton Rouge go to white owned firms, not 60% not 70% not 80% but 98% of contracts go to companies that look like the majority on the council, not the majority of the city. Contracts to the tune of $300 million annually. Yet that doesn’t impact the income gap? That doesn’t impact crime? That doesn’t impact access to healthcare? It’s another form of taxation without representation.

Growth of black owned businesses shouldn’t be a problem, but a collective goal of everyone in this community because it creates jobs. Helps reduce crime, helps children have parents that can spend more time helping them with homework rather than working 3 or 4 jobs. Everything I’ve just said is rooted in data, including white flight when blacks begin to seek equity. So help me understand how creating a city 70% white helps us solve any of our collective issues that won’t go away if a new city is created?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43033 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 8:36 am to
As things now stand the petition is in the Governor's office and if you read the Advocate today; they make it sound as if he has a decision to make as to whether a vote needs to be taken.

I'd be surprised if he stopped the petition, but then again it wouldn't be the first time I've been surprised. Desperate folks get desperate and they might get JBE to block us. Time will tell.

The election though could be as early as May or as late as the fall.
Then we will see.

Opponents threaten court action if we win. They would challenge our right to incorporate.

After all that would come the ISD and that's no slam dunk. It will be harder to pull off than the city,

I'd say at best an ISD would start around 2025. But I'm a realist.
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
13095 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 8:38 am to
Thanks for the input, much appreciated
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104440 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 8:43 am to
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After all that would come the ISD and that's no slam dunk. It will be harder to pull off than the city,

I'd say at best an ISD would start around 2025. But I'm a realist.



What's the full process there?

State legislature has to approve it right because an ISD for some reason requires an amendment to the state constitution? I think that's what I read...

So that would then go to a statewide vote to approve said amendment?

Then wouldn't something also have to pass locally?
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
15933 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 8:50 am to
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Gravy has spoken! Let’s talk about how the proposed City of St. George is just another form of legalized segregation. Conservatives are the majority on the council. Literally they have 7 members which is what it takes to pass any measure. This St. George conversation is new white flight. When it seems that blacks are going to get a fair shake it’s somehow wrong. 98% of contracts in Baton Rouge go to white owned firms, not 60% not 70% not 80% but 98% of contracts go to companies that look like the majority on the council, not the majority of the city. Contracts to the tune of $300 million annually. Yet that doesn’t impact the income gap? That doesn’t impact crime? That doesn’t impact access to healthcare? It’s another form of taxation without representation. Growth of black owned businesses shouldn’t be a problem, but a collective goal of everyone in this community because it creates jobs. Helps reduce crime, helps children have parents that can spend more time helping them with homework rather than working 3 or 4 jobs. Everything I’ve just said is rooted in data, including white flight when blacks begin to seek equity. So help me understand how creating a city 70% white helps us solve any of our collective issues that won’t go away if a new city is created?


Condensed version....St. George supporters = racists

He's a one-trick pony, just like Chauna Banks. They play the race card every time. I'm glad to see that people in BR are getting sick and tired of this BS.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39546 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 8:51 am to
Broome: “if and when an election is scheduled...”


Yeah idiot, you’re a huge part of the reason for this.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43033 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 9:05 am to
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So help me understand how creating a city 70% white helps us solve any of our collective issues that won’t go away if a new city is created


The current system is failing. The issues we see; crime, schools, traffic, and poor govt. response to daily occurrences are not being addressed now and are getting worse.
SG believes we can help ourselves better than others can help us. Bigger isn't necessarily better. Local control can be better than regional control.
And percentage of race has nothing to do with anything. What makes a difference is having more people that produce than people that sponge and want everyone else to fix their problems.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43033 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 9:08 am to
An election would be held state wide from what I understand.

To win I believe the state would have to vote for it, the parish would have to vote for it and the district itself would have to vote for it.

It would take a trifecta to pass.

If I'm wrong here, someone please correct me.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104440 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 9:09 am to
That's what I thought...

Obviously the third part is the easy one.

I imagine the statewide vote would likely pass.

The parish vote would be the tough one. All the Central/Zachary people would need to come out and support it.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41599 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 9:10 am to
If Gravy is really concerned, he should be pushing 24/7 to de-consolidate. Let the people of BR impact the city of BR.

However, that comes at a cost and that cost is they would have to be self-funding.

Can't have it both ways, Mr. Gravy.

Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
11425 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 9:18 am to
Once St. George happens, Zachary, Central, and SG need to petition to create the states 65th Parish as a big frick you to EBR and find a way to bring Exxon with them.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25784 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 9:24 am to
I have kind of a dumb question.. The school board is awarding a contract on a $30 million dollar school in Jefferson Terrace right now. Is it wise for the EBRPSS to be building a school they will likely have to just give away in the next few years?

Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
13095 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 9:27 am to
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I have kind of a dumb question.. The school board is awarding a contract on a $30 million dollar school in Jefferson Terrace right now. Is it wise for the EBRPSS to be building a school they will likely have to just give away in the next few years?



My guess is St George will have to end up somehow paying for it. I am curious of this as well.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
13130 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 9:33 am to
So which current high schools are within the proposed City of SG limit?
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25784 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 9:33 am to
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So which current high schools are within the proposed City of SG limit?


Right now, I think it's just Woodlawn.
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
13095 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 9:36 am to
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Just woodlawn. Pretty amazing over such a vast area there's such a lack of schools.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104440 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 9:38 am to
I think the only EBR schools in the proposed St. George are Woodlawn Elementary, Shenandoah Elementary, and Woodlawn HS.


ETA: And Westminster and Jefferson Terrace Elementaries... didn't realize St. George went that far in.

EATA: And Woodlawn Middle, duh.
This post was edited on 2/26/19 at 9:43 am
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