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re: Spanking a kid--where do you stand?

Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:10 pm to
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65852 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:10 pm to
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An argument happened today at a party.
Not the clinical definition of a “party”.

tl/dr: You and your peer circle suck.
Posted by lsufan9193969700
3 miles from B.R.
Member since Sep 2003
55132 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:17 pm to
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Not the clinical definition of a “party”.
lol

quote:

tl/dr: You and your peer circle suck.



It was a great time. The argument was merely a slightly agitated woman firmly telling her boyfriend that spanking was dumb. He said it wasn't. The argument took no more than 5 minutes, but it made me wonder how many people agreed with her.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18811 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:17 pm to
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think it really depends on the child as well as the disposition of the parents. In this thread, I can only comment in general and in general, I don't see a trend one way or another.


I was hit as a kid and it didn’t turn out well. I have very little relationship with my dad because of it. It just taints your relationship, IMO. Imagine you had a friend who hits you when you mess up, you wouldn’t be friends with them long and you’d grow to resent them. Problem with the parent is there’s no way to opt out of being hit. It breeds fear, insecurity, and low self worth.

Your parent is supposed to teach you, not hit you. Hitting is lazy, and there are ways to discipline that are just as effective without hitting.
Posted by lsufan9193969700
3 miles from B.R.
Member since Sep 2003
55132 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:20 pm to
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I was hit as a kid and it didn’t turn out well. I have very little relationship with my dad because of it.


You said, "hit." Do you mean spanked? Or did your father ball up his fist and punch you? Did he slap you? What do you mean by "hit"?
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36195 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:21 pm to
I’ll light a kid up.

There will be no sense of entitlement in my house.
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
4470 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:28 pm to
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Studies demonstrate that corporal punishment is not an effective way to instill discipline and actually promotes insubordination and violence.


Studies indicate we will soon be underwater.

Does the military use physical punishment to install discipline? Does the military have problems with insubordination?


The military disciplines adults, not children, who respond differently to aggression because of their developmental state. The American Academy of Pediatricians has recently confirmed that it believes spanking is both ineffective and harmful in the long-term.

LINK
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24276 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:49 pm to
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I was hit as a kid and it didn’t turn out well. I have very little relationship with my dad because of it. It just taints your relationship, IMO.

If this is how you feel, then your dad did more than give you a quick slap or quick spanking.



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Hitting is lazy, and there are ways to discipline that are just as effective without hitting.

For some children, there are definitely other ways of discipline as effective as slapping or spanking them, but for some, spanking is as effective as anything. Again, to say it's lazy is a lie. It usually involves a parent having to actively and physically address the issue right then and there. A parent could say "Well, I'm not getting you that x-box game said I was gonna get you" or something like that and it could be viewed as much more passive and lazy in terms of showing that he or she doesn't want to see that behavior displayed again.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24276 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 11:08 pm to
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The military disciplines adults, not children, who respond differently to aggression because of their developmental state. The American Academy of Pediatricians has recently confirmed that it believes spanking is both ineffective and harmful in the long-term.



They've had studies that have showed the opposite too.

goodparent.org psychologist study

Each child is different and I think some things will work for some children and those same things may not work for other children. It's about finding a balance for each child. And the best research as to what works and what doesn't work for children is done by their parents.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68402 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 11:22 pm to
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Spanking has been shown to produce criminals.
So has not spanking.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31532 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 11:26 pm to
i was never against it before having kids, and i still say, to each his own. but it just seems neanderthal to me now. i think if you're to the point where you think it's necessary, you've already fricked up some fundamentals of child rearing.

of course, this is the board that is pro-torture and cruel-and-unusual punishment, so i expect a flood of idiotic downvotes behind your double-anonymous shroud.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18811 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 11:39 pm to
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What do you mean by "hit"?


Belts, paddles, switches, etc.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57472 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 11:53 pm to
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this is part of what's wrong with this country today
and why there are so many pussy young adults who don't understand actions have consequences.
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
11738 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 11:56 pm to
I'd rather get spanked than have to kneel on uncooked rice while on a hardwood floor.

Been there, done that, not fun.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
Member since Sep 2014
23658 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:00 am to
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kneel on uncooked rice while on a hardwood floor.


Now that’s just sadistic, I’m not sure what good could ever come from that.
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
11738 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:07 am to
Eh, I probably deserved it.

Was the equivalent of going in timeout for my Grandma.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124493 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:16 am to




That snap...it has an effect.

A threat is best if you never have to use it. If the dread comes from that look.

I tell you what will happen if you misbehave. If you choose to continue, you leave me no choice. I can renege on my word and you won’t respect it ever again...or I can deliver the consequence YOU chose.

Once you establish the knowledge that continued disobedience will incur the known punishment, you just have to give the look. And they get that “OH shite” look on their faces.

They realize they’ve messed up and get right and you don’t even need to spank.
This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 12:22 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124493 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:17 am to
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I’m not sure what good could ever come from that.


Learning to not do that behaviour
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:38 am to
cut that arse so they dont end up in prison
Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
Member since Sep 2014
23658 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:52 am to
No, there are plenty other ways to teach a child not to repeat a behavior, through things like positive/negative reinforcement. Often times the carrot is better than the switch.
This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 12:55 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124493 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:57 am to
But the switch must exist nonetheless. There must be consequences
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