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re: Southern University Engineering Program -- Job Search Ideas

Posted on 7/18/15 at 3:18 am to
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 3:18 am to
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you in NSBE? If not, you need to get yourself a membership now and establish a network


OP DO NOT listen to this advice. Most people you will interview with will run if they see this on your resume. Right or wrong they will look at you as an Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson disciple and it will hurt your job hunt. I know it sounds bad but I promise you that most people doing the hiring are white and they will not see that as a good thing.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 3:20 am to

Thank you, its really appreciated

But just to be sure, I am assuming that you are not the pretty girl in photo are you?

Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 3:22 am to
Ya you would be correct in that assumption
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 3:28 am to

Okay, well man or woman, I understand what you meant about NSBE. To be honest I was a member of NSBE at LaTech, but ironically I have not been to the meetings at SU.




I do not have anything against NSBE, but have considered paying membership into IEEE.

I honestly do not see why other people overlook SU engineering.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 3:30 am to
I would be all for you getting involved with the NBSE once you have established yourself but having that on your resume when looking for a career would not be helpful at all
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 3:44 am to
My advice is to find a bunch of places you're interested in online and start cold calling. I haven't ever found a decent job off of places like indeed. Always spend the time making phone calls because it gives me a chance to sell myself (also good learning experience).

Don't take a unpaid internship.

Be open to exploring all options. With my current job, I told them I wanted to start it in the shop getting hands on experience and knowledge. They knew I wanted to do engineering stuff though. After a month and a half in the shop, I have now been working inside drawing specialty tools on the computer, designing other random tools, and solving a few problems here and there. If I get bored, I just walk out to the shop and start doing stuff.

They have a sister company I am trying to transfer to in a couple more months. They do exactly what I planned on doing as a ME
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 3:45 am to

Its unfortunate that their is such a bad political climate around the organizations.

Just a guess, but are you an engineer or pursuing engineering.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 3:52 am to
Oh trust me, I am open to different options. The only option I am not open to is an education career (its a personal thing).

Why not take an unpaid internship?? I could use the experience (even if I can only do it once)

Once they see I have an Engineering degree from SU, they will know how proficient I am.
This post was edited on 7/18/15 at 3:56 am
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85588 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 4:20 am to
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Okay, well man or woman,


That's how I think of him too
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33922 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 4:41 am to
Well Walgreens was #6. This is just the info you're feeding me, what else do I have to go by?
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5360 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 5:40 am to
If I was the OP, i would do like the others have said and call any firm and work it that way. I would also do a google search for every engineering company in the state. I did that when i got my current job. Just couple things to remember. First what is your engineering degree going to be in? Find as many companies and locations you would be willing to work for and in that location. I can't also stress location enough. I've have jobs in supposedly great places only to find that it sucked. Couldn't stand the people and was miserable. Find people that work for that company and location. Ask about the quality of life such as cost of living.

Something to remember also that when you get hired, be motivated. I can tell you I've seen all kinds people fail. Some were highly educated but lacked motivation and were lazy. Pay your dues. As a new graduate or soon to be one you have no real or extremely limited experience and therefore you are an unknown gamble. Be eager to learn not just the engineering aspect but the industry itself. Make contacts. You may find yourself later one wanting to set up a small consulting firm. Ya never know so always keep options open.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70143 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 7:45 am to
Why southern?
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
3000 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 9:17 am to
Don't get a masters in EE unless you want to become a professor or work for some extremely specialized R&D type company.if it's the latter then you need to be at an nationally recognized school like MIT or GA Tech. A MS in engineering won't give you any advantages over a BS for a typical entry level engineering position. Once your career starts your performance and experience will move you up the ladder not your degree.

In my opinion if you can get a BS by taking significantly less classes than what is required for your MS then go that route.

You will have opportunities graduating from Southern, but you may have more opportunities graduating from LSU.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
18000 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 9:23 am to
quote:

quote:
you in NSBE? If not, you need to get yourself a membership now and establish a network


OP DO NOT listen to this advice. Most people you will interview with will run if they see this on your resume. Right or wrong they will look at you as an Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson disciple and it will hurt your job hunt. I know it sounds bad but I promise you that most people doing the hiring are white and they will not see that as a good thing.



This is such bad advice. Such bad advice and its wholly untrue. I personally know of women and men that where members than now work in Silicon Valley and in Florida that make +$145k plus.

It's a deterrent if they think like you, but NSBE usually has a great crop of talent.
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50506 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 9:35 am to
quote:

If you can move to L.A, NYC, San Fran, Chicago etc for the first five or so years of your career it will make all of the difference in the world in the long run.


These aren't very good cities for STEMs.

LINK

Relative to cost of living, NYC and SF have the second and third lowest paid STEM professionals in the US.
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50506 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 9:43 am to
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A MS in engineering won't give you any advantages over a BS for a typical entry level engineering position.


I don't even get how it would work. He would just jump straight into advanced circuit/power/electronic classes without having taken the basics. He'll have most of the math down from the Physics degree, but that's only ~60% of it. Maybe I'm totally misunderstanding how a masters in something that you didn't get a bachelors in works.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12963 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 10:07 am to
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you in NSBE? If not, you need to get yourself a membership now and establish a network


Its simple. Join this if you want to be seen as a "black Engineer". Dont join it if you'd rather be seen as an Engineer.

I have to agree with an earlier poster, that some employers might see this as somebody trying to get ahead not on merit but on skin color. (on the flip side there might be employers looking for a minority to hire to add diversity or whatever and might look to these organizations)

This is a great example of where "affirmative action" or "diversity" goes wrong. When a minority is successful on his own merit, others will wonder if it was because he's qualified, or because he was socially promoted and that's when it does more harm than good. My advice is to play up your strengths and accomplishments. You dont have to downplay race, but dont use it as a ticket to get anywhere and there will be lots of employers who will bend over backwards to hire you. For a minority who is qualified and works hard, and doesnt play the race card all the time, the sky is the limit, because a lot of companies would love to add diversity.

Not sure if that really makes sense but good luck to the OP.
This post was edited on 7/18/15 at 10:09 am
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 10:11 am to
I've worked with several southern engineering grads. Its a mixed bag. As far as the actual degree, I know plenty have taken the more difficult classes that they didnt theink they would pass at LSU through southern, then transferred the credit. It is known as an easier school compared to other state schools. I've had a manager that was very sharp who graduated from Southern. But, he had a reputation for wanting to hire HBCU grads purely because of his history there. It brought in an influx of very unqualified employees mixed in with the qualified ones. I know people who I believe quit the diversity program because it focused on hiring HBCU people too much instead of qualified applicants. I don't think that does anything for Southern's reputation. Like I said Ive worked with the good, but schools get remembered by the idiots they put out.

Good thjng for the OP is that people are looking to hire from Southern.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
18000 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 10:17 am to
If the recruiters and hirers are as closed minded as you are then maybe.

But if you have the grades, the resume, and the work ethic, membership in that group won't hurt you at all, it'll inly help you. It's helped numerous people I know because they were great at what they did first.

I never said just bank on your skin color.

Joining an interest group isn't playing a card all the time, and again, your ignorance is showing.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12963 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 10:22 am to
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I never said just bank on your skin color.


I said don't bank on it at all.

Thanks for proving my point.
This post was edited on 7/18/15 at 10:29 am
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