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re: Southern University Engineering Program -- Job Search Ideas
Posted on 7/18/15 at 8:53 pm to BayouWrangler
Posted on 7/18/15 at 8:53 pm to BayouWrangler
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The best electrical engineers I ever met were master electricians prior to being degreed and the best experience I received as a civil was working for my dads construction company and then interning at Boh Bros during college. I recommend you call every elec service firm you can and ask for a part time gig as a helper.
agree with this completely...I was a mechanic before I got my mechanical engineering degree...
for an entry level engineer, hands on experience is every bit as valuable as engineering experience....in fact, when we hire engineers,they always spend six months or so in the field working with the crews to get some practical experience...
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Posted on 7/18/15 at 9:03 pm to volod
Apply at all the big firms and government agencies. Nobody will ever allow you to be anywhere near bridges or overpasses though until you've proven yourself.
Have you considered moving? Southern is great if you're planning on leaving the state after graduation. That's why foreigners go there and leave. Southern is accredited, so your degree is treated the same as if you went to any regular state university. Locally, that is not the case.
Have you considered moving? Southern is great if you're planning on leaving the state after graduation. That's why foreigners go there and leave. Southern is accredited, so your degree is treated the same as if you went to any regular state university. Locally, that is not the case.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 9:22 pm to Asgard Device
Thanks for that advice. I had assumed that was the case during the 1st year.
I have always planned to leave louisiana anyway. I only look for opportunities in louisiana to beef up my resume for jobs out of state.
I have always planned to leave louisiana anyway. I only look for opportunities in louisiana to beef up my resume for jobs out of state.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 10:16 pm to volod
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Just curious. Why do some people loathe SU. It is not a bad school. It has a more relaxed atmosphere than some universities but it produces good graduates.
I honestly wanted a break from the tense atmosphere of Northern LA. And I know I will bloom into the engineer I can be at SU.
Okay. What the frick. What the motherfrick. This whole thing is just frickin creepy. Nobody loathes the school. Alot of us have been out there 20 years or more and know stuff. Stop it.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 11:02 pm to mikelbr
I didn't mean to upset you. I just was curious about it.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 11:41 pm to volod
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what do you mean by volatile.
He means that the oil industry goes through cycles of up and down markets. When it is up, everything is well in the industry and money is thrown around. However, when things get slow like right now, people get laid off. It is rarely engineers that are released though.
People don't loathe Southern, it simply just does not have a good reputation. It isn't a school where employers in the region are going to jump through hoops to hire their graduates. For a school that is also in Baton Rouge, it will always have to compete against LSU for job placement.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 11:51 pm to GoldenD
Thank you for comment about the gas/oil industry. I am not a chemist or Chem engineer, but if I could get into that industry with a Physics BS Electric/Material Engineering MS I would.
As for Southern, my only concern is why it has a bad reputation.
As for Southern, my only concern is why it has a bad reputation.
Posted on 7/19/15 at 12:02 am to ell_13
To be clear I was using it frequently for the past few weeks until a few days ago. I have other major job search that's I utilize.
We have to do what must to pay bills. Howeve, I absolutely refuse to teach (for personal reasons mostly, but also I have the luxury to wait out for an opportunity)
I hope I don't sound spoiled, I promise you that I am not.
And I know that finding work with BS Physics is possible from job ads (and not just education). But I realized too late the error I made in switching to Physics.
Honestly I wish I did nanosystems engineering or even industrial engineering. But I am trying to move on, and I felt switching schools was the best compromise.
We have to do what must to pay bills. Howeve, I absolutely refuse to teach (for personal reasons mostly, but also I have the luxury to wait out for an opportunity)
I hope I don't sound spoiled, I promise you that I am not.
And I know that finding work with BS Physics is possible from job ads (and not just education). But I realized too late the error I made in switching to Physics.
Honestly I wish I did nanosystems engineering or even industrial engineering. But I am trying to move on, and I felt switching schools was the best compromise.
Posted on 7/19/15 at 12:09 am to volod
Any degreed engineer can get on with an oil service company when they're in full hiring mode. I've even heard of them hiring physics majors such as yourself. For an EE, you can also look into the DOTD, and plants/refineries and you should have some success. I will second what was said earlier about not taking an unpaid internship, no respectable company can legally get away with not paying an engineering intern. Also, if you're looking for internships for this summer (2015), you are way late into the game.
I don't know enough about the school to form a valid opinion.
I don't know enough about the school to form a valid opinion.
Posted on 7/19/15 at 12:14 am to volod
I didn't read this thread past the first page but check out indeed.com
I just used them to hire a low position with me but I got it from someone who said a lot of the plants are now using it. There are a bunch of jobs posted. I had several great interviews and eventually had to put applicants in a head to head coin-flipping tournament.
Make sure of two things before you post your resume and start actively seeking employment:
A. Have something in your resume that stands out
B. Set your Facebook (social media) to private or delete it all together.
B may be more important because I didn't even set up interviews for some people based on what I saw on their Facebook. That may be shallow but I'm not acquainting my business with anyone who makes poor choices and puts it on the Internet for all the world to see.
I just used them to hire a low position with me but I got it from someone who said a lot of the plants are now using it. There are a bunch of jobs posted. I had several great interviews and eventually had to put applicants in a head to head coin-flipping tournament.
Make sure of two things before you post your resume and start actively seeking employment:
A. Have something in your resume that stands out
B. Set your Facebook (social media) to private or delete it all together.
B may be more important because I didn't even set up interviews for some people based on what I saw on their Facebook. That may be shallow but I'm not acquainting my business with anyone who makes poor choices and puts it on the Internet for all the world to see.
Posted on 7/19/15 at 12:35 am to GoldenD
Mostly referring to next summer(ie after graduation or months closer toward graduation in May )
Posted on 7/19/15 at 1:09 am to GoldenD
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Any degreed engineer can get on with an oil service company when they're in full hiring mode.
They must not be in full hiring mode, because I graduated over 2 months ago, have applied for 100+ jobs in 6 states, and have nothing to show for it. The (few) jobs that I've applied to on Linkedin show that I'm competing with 30+ other people for a single job. I'm probably the outlier, but I don't think that engineering jobs are what they're cracked up to be.
This post was edited on 7/19/15 at 1:11 am
Posted on 7/19/15 at 1:14 am to THRILLHO
IIRC, one of my teachers told me earlier this summer that Entergy is looking for people. Either them or somewhere around here I can't remember
Posted on 7/19/15 at 1:25 am to THRILLHO
The price of oil is in the 50s, so O&G is going to be slower on hiring.
For recent grads, you need to have one of the following in order to more easily land a job: internships, good GPA, or connections. If you lack all of those, went to a shitty school, and have a poor personality, then you're going to struggle. Most of the people I graduated with in May had jobs lined up prior to graduation. Many of us had multiple offers.
For recent grads, you need to have one of the following in order to more easily land a job: internships, good GPA, or connections. If you lack all of those, went to a shitty school, and have a poor personality, then you're going to struggle. Most of the people I graduated with in May had jobs lined up prior to graduation. Many of us had multiple offers.
Posted on 7/19/15 at 1:28 am to Hammertime
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one of my teachers told me earlier this summer that Entergy is looking for people.
I've applied to at least a dozen Entergy positions over the last 3 years. Got an interview for one (an intern position). No dice since. Entergy fricking hates me.
Posted on 7/19/15 at 1:35 am to GoldenD
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For recent grads, you need to have one of the following in order to more easily land a job:
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internships,
Nope.
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good GPA
Yep.
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or connections
Yep.
And I fricking tried to get an internship, but no dice. I haven't even landed an interview since graduating despite reading a book dedicated to landing a job (What Color is Your Parachute) and applying to 100+ jobs all over the country. It's killing me. I didn't think that it was THAT big of a deal since I had ~10 years working experience (not in EE, but ~2 years in pretty legit white collar non-retard work) and have had no luck. It's not like interns can learn THAT much in ~3 months of work that shows that they're easily more capable than I am at a job.
Posted on 7/19/15 at 1:38 am to THRILLHO
Honestly you have a point. I was going to make a post about Engineers Shortage Myth, but that will be another topic.
Most engineers I know of are hired. But I know a good number from LinkedIn who went to grad school before hand. A few had jobs but are abruptly unemployed. Incidentally one very bright Chem E I knew is currently a Math Teacher (k to 12).
The ones in grad/professional school are mostly Nanosystems and Biomedical types. Anybody know why???
Most engineers I know of are hired. But I know a good number from LinkedIn who went to grad school before hand. A few had jobs but are abruptly unemployed. Incidentally one very bright Chem E I knew is currently a Math Teacher (k to 12).
The ones in grad/professional school are mostly Nanosystems and Biomedical types. Anybody know why???
Posted on 7/19/15 at 1:43 am to volod
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The ones in grad/professional school are mostly Nanosystems and Biomedical types. Anybody know why???
What kind of engineers were they originally?
Posted on 7/19/15 at 7:55 am to THRILLHO
Are you just applying online? Have you tried cold calling a bunch of places? I've had the most success with picking up the phone
Posted on 7/19/15 at 8:00 am to THRILLHO
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I don't even get how it would work. He would just jump straight into advanced circuit/power/electronic classes without having taken the basics. He'll have most of the math down from the Physics degree, but that's only ~60% of it. Maybe I'm totally misunderstanding how a masters in something that you didn't get a bachelors in works.
It's not that uncommon if you have a BS in Chemistry or Physics. We had two in my class and they were taking a few basic courses like thermo and engineering economics and such while also taking the graduate courses.
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