re: So, my wife and I had to discipline our daughter for not putting forth effort in school

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My wife told her to clean it and she wouldn't. Finally, my wife tells her she's going to throw all her toys away if she doesn't clean her room. My 3yr old walks into the kitchen and comes back with a box of trash bags. They load up all her toys and take them to the street.

How do you parent around that?

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You dont. If your aim was a tidy room, it was achieved. Move on. The real question is what do you do the next time you ask for her help and she says FU....I put mine in the corner on their knees. The only acceptable move from that corner is to do what I said to start with, I got all day.

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Looks like your daughter's problem is genetic.

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your wife is feeling guilty about punishing your daughter and verbalized the rambling thoughts in a woman's head.

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We're having a rough time getting her to understand why school and education is important.

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Ehhh. Its somewhat overrated to be honest. My brother had to go back to school 3 different times to get a decent paying job in the NOLA area and hes a good dude. Now hes having to go back for his masters. My wife on the other hand has made upwards of 80k in the past and never less than 55k and shes a hairdresser.

The truth of our economy is that the hard, blue-collar, hustle jobs are the ones that pay. HVAC, mechanic, beautician, etc. Its also easier to start your own business in those fields and make REAL bank. Unless you go to school to be a doctor, law school or certain engineering, youre really going to school so you can get a job where you dont have to get dirty or sweat at the cost of making a little or lot less depending on major. Although, you could potentially move up the corporate ladder over time and make equivalent or better money than the blue-collar fields but that is completely dependent on your personality which you dont get from school and takes me to my next point....

How far you go in life is almost completely dependent on your personality and work ethic not your education. Dont get me wrong, in certain markets, industries and companies, not having that degree can potentially hold you back but the most successful people , hustle, work-hard, network, take risks and/or are likeable on a personal level.

On a side note, I have some college and an IQ of 132-138 and Im unemployed and I could never, in the past, keep a job or get along with people here in LA. My wife, however, has a GED, isnt stupid by any measure but is no Einstein and she works extremely consistently, makes good decisions and has an extremely likable and somewhat amenable personality.

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She hates it and every single day the most simple tasks that should only take 30-45 minutes to do takes her all damn night because of her just not giving a damn.

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Shes burnt out and yall are burning her out. If you want to make someone like learning you have to make it interesting and enjoyable not a grind. You cant push a man up a ladder but if you hold a carrot in front of a tortoise you can get a free ride. Maybe that love-child abomination of a quote thinly disguised as a analogy doesnt work but I think you get what Im saying.

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My wife continued, "What's the point of all of it? What's the point of pushing her? What's the point of going to work? What's the point of having stuff? What's the point striving for more and more? What's the point of life when you're just going to die anyway? So, what's the point?"

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Life really just about this
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Career/money/accumulation is just a means to an end.

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So, what's the point?"

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Hookers and blow

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Here, here my good man!

Are you still unemployed?

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I pay my kid...that's all the money he gets every quarter
$10 for AB&Cs
$100 for A&Bs
$1000 for As

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#1 OT baller right here folks.

His kid gets straight A's this year hes opening the wallet for $24,000

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Are you still unemployed?

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Yes, why?

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Then I'll follow that up with some real world examples, by driving through less deprived areas

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Your point would be made better if you drove her through some more deprived areas.

If she goes to Hammond High, you dont need effort to pass