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re: So my son was a victim of a Pit Bull bite
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:11 am to Barf
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:11 am to Barf
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You're acting like your kid suffered some horrible tragedy at the hands of some vicious animal
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Chad504boy
considering all circumstances, it was a best case scenario.
am i really?
my story holds up fine. there's not ever an excuse to be made for a dog to bite a child in a state park street while on his bike. But hey, let's keep making this personal.
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Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:12 am to Barf
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Barf
You're defending a dog you don't know, when it's apparent that even the owners have accepted responsibility for what their dog did. What a douche.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:13 am to Chad504boy
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there's not ever an excuse to be made for a dog to bite a child in a state park street while on his bike
Uhhhh
Your own words
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, something or another he was getting back on his bike when the dog came up behind him and nipped his leg
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:14 am to Chad504boy
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my story holds up fine. there's not ever an excuse to be made for a dog to bite a child in a state park street while on his bike. But hey, let's keep making this personal.
You havent' explained why you weren't watching your 4 year old more closely?
What were you doing while your 4 year old was being bitten by a dog 50 feet away from you?
What if someone decided to coerce your son to follow them for some ice cream, and then kidnapped them? Would you have noticed that?
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:14 am to Barf
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Barf
I found the pit owner...
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:14 am to Barf
and what, he was on his bike trying to start pedaling again.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:17 am to Chad504boy
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and what, he was on his bike trying to start pedaling again.
and what was he doing off of his bike?
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:18 am to Chad504boy
Need two things to get a better picture of what happened. To see the wound and know what your son was doing prior to the incident.
It could vary a lot.
My dog scratched my nephews hand and his mom freaked, but he got it playing with the dog. My kids literally rode my dog and my three year old at the time played dress up with him. Never hurt anyone and this was no exception.
It could vary a lot.
My dog scratched my nephews hand and his mom freaked, but he got it playing with the dog. My kids literally rode my dog and my three year old at the time played dress up with him. Never hurt anyone and this was no exception.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:21 am to TexasTiger08
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All put owners need to understand that if their dogs bite someone they will go to jail and lose everything they have.....send a message to these POS owners.quote:
I don't think it works that way
If my medical expenses and pain and suffering is worth more than your income, guess what, I'm not above the courts garnishing your Burger King wages.
This post was edited on 4/4/16 at 11:23 am
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:22 am to Langston
Sometimes these scenarios turn into the whole idea of 'play stupid games, win stupid prizes'. Certain things will trigger a dog, any dog, to get pissed and bite.
You poke a beehive with a stick, you may get stung.
You keep teasing a cat, you may get scratched.
You poke a beehive with a stick, you may get stung.
You keep teasing a cat, you may get scratched.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:24 am to TexasTiger08
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You poke a beehive with a stick, you may get stung.
So when your 4 year old comes home covered in bee stings do you take his word for that he was just riding his bike by the bees and they attacked unprovoked?
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:25 am to Langston
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Need two things to get a better picture of what happened. To see the wound and know what your son was doing prior to the incident.
he said he fell off bike trying to turn around. I don't know if he knew prior to the fall if he saw girl and dog coming, if he was trying to avoid them, get out their way etc. He's only been training wheel free for 2-3 weeks now. if my kid was trying to go pet the dog, i would see a more likely arm bite than his knee which would have been his dog head's height when getting on bike. Pic is maybe 2 hours after occurred, remember this was underneath pair of jeans.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:29 am to AubieALUMdvm
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Lots of dogs out there that won't bite just b/c they're approached by a child (if that's what happened)
Even though I consider myself good owner, my dog is an escape artist, and has and will escape when given the chance. It sucks, but I understand she doesn't because she craves human affection. Probably more so than other dogs.
In the year+ I've been in Colorado, she's probably escaped 15 times (apparently she learned how to climb a fence, which I've since fixed that problem). Every time she got loose, I got a call from someone. Of the times this happened, 75% of the time, it was found by a family with kids in the yard, and half of those times, a kid was holding the leash when I pulled up. She loves to play, and kids being playful kids, she's naturally drawn towards them.
But she's been socialized. She doesn't associate humans with fear or anything else negative that will trigger an attack. She sees humans as attention, affection, and possibly treats. When she gets loose, she immediately runs to the first person she sees. She'll jump right into a strangers car (which scared me when we were in Nola, where many pits are stolen to be used as bait dogs.)
It may also help that she doesn't have clipped ears or tail, which allows her body language to be expressed easier. She's small, 55 pounds tops, but is built like a mini tank, which can initially startle someone. But a wagging tail and her happy dance makes her intentions obvious to anyone that's spent any time around a dog.
The leash in the Op's scenario might have actually caused the aggression. Leash aggression is a big problem with many dogs. The Boulder Humane Society has a course specifically for dogs that have leash issues.
Tl/dr: spend the first year socializing the hell out of your dog, and damn near any breed can be friendly (except maybe Chows)
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:30 am to bountyhunter
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If my medical expenses and pain and suffering is worth more than your income, guess what, I'm not above the courts garnishing your Burger King wages.
No shite...as is the case with any sort of attack or injury. So why make this statement specific to pit bull owners? Next time your chihuahua bites my ankle, I'll sue you...just to send a message of course to all owners of that breed.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:31 am to N2cars
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I bring my dogs to the LSU games. One is a chow-mix. A few years ago a little 3-4 year-old girl ran up to her and put her arms around the dog's neck and hugged her (very suddenly). My dog was on a leash under the tarp at our tailgate.
That's awesome. I'm glad to finally hear about a well socialized chow. Those are a very difficult breed to socialize and train. I figured most I've met had nonchalant or weak owners.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:31 am to CCTider
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spend the first year socializing the hell out of your dog
owners of dog had large crowd at their site most of weekend for what that is worth. pretty safe to say it was a socialized dog.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:37 am to Chad504boy
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Chad504boy
That's a legit bite.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:42 am to Chad504boy
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owners of dog had large crowd at their site most of weekend for what that is worth. pretty safe to say it was a socialized dog.
There's socialized, and well socialized. That dog may have known everyone there for a while, she's could have issues with strangers.
But I'll assume it as a well socialized dog.
Two things that led to that attack, imo.
1.) Leash aggression. Many dogs are great off-leash, but can be aggressive on leash. Here's a blurb about it from a dog training site.
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Leash lunging, leash reactivity and leash aggression are all behaviors that are caused by a dog feeling restrained, frustrated and uncomfortable in a social situation while attached to a leash. In normal circumstances, an unleashed dog would be able to put sufficient distance between himself and a fear source. But if the same dog is leashed and unable to increase that distance, he will react or behave defensively in the hope that the fear source will go away.
If your dog’s behavior is reinforced by success (meaning distance has been increased), he is likely to react in the same manner again when faced with a similar stimulus.
Walking a dog that lunges and aggresses on leash is not a pleasant experience. The anticipation of a problem tends to cause human tension, which is transmitted down the leash to the dog, effectively making the lunging behavior worse. Dog and owner are then locked in a vicious cycle of tension and leash lunging that becomes hard to change
2.) Your kid was on a bike.
Many great dogs I've known, have been terrible about biting in this same scenario. It's their prey drive. It's the same principal as running away from a dog. Dogs chase squirrels, rabbits, etc from their prey instincts.
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Prey Drive. Dogs that were bred to hunt, such as terriers, have an inborn desire to chase and sometimes kill other animals. Anything whizzing by — cats, squirrels, perhaps even cars — can trigger that instinct.
It sounds like that dog had a combination of these two issues. Both of which can be corrected.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:43 am to Langston
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That's a legit bite.
Is it really?
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