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re: So how is this worse than the Swine Flu?

Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:25 am to
Posted by Presidio
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Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:25 am to
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I hate your media so much.

I’m a republican and watch Fox News.
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The fact that crap like this is even out there is disturbing

I literally just googled facts and punched numbers into my calculator. That’s all I did.

It is a global pandemic. Not a fricking political issue.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 8:28 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:27 am to
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If corona is about a 1% death rate, that is 50x.


The death rate is constantly diminishing as more tests are done. Then there are the asymptomatic people that we'll never know if they had it, who are not tested, so the results are skewed. Those predicting hundreds of thousands of deaths are the hysterical.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:29 am to
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Overall CFR is looking to settle at .9% for a highly contagious agent.



When the dust settles and we look back on this, I predict it won't be anywhere close to .9%. I think there are many who have it who don't know it. I'll bet when 2020 is in the books the death toll in the US won't get out of four figures. Not an expert at all, just my hunch.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:29 am to
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Then there are the asymptomatic people that we'll never know if they had it, who are not tested, so the results are skewed. Those predicting hundreds of thousands of deaths are the hysterical.


I wish people could actually talk about actual numbers and rates rather than rehashing whatever their media is talking about.
Posted by TheLSUriot
Clear Lake, TX
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:29 am to
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This is much worse and what makes it so bad it’s a quiet killer that no one has ever seen before and they have no data on how to fight it or vaccinate for it

This is complete bullshite. We know a lot about coronaviruses.
Pubmed 'coronavirus' search
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:31 am to
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The death rate is constantly diminishing


LINK

Thats not really true. Look at the logrithmic scale on deaths and tell me it is declining.

For the math challenged its a constant exponential rate upward.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 8:35 am
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:33 am to
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The death rate is constantly diminishing as more tests are done. Then there are the asymptomatic people that we'll never know if they had it, who are not tested, so the results are skewed. Those predicting hundreds of thousands of deaths are the hysterical.

My stance and opinions change as I get more information and learn more. If the true death rate is far lower than 1%, that’s fantastic. But at this point, it appears to be much deadlier than swine flu.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:34 am to
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I fully expect you to stay at home from now on. The Flu will still kill more than this. And more people will die of food poisoning.

This is what makes it worse

This right here.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:34 am to
What does the death rate look like if you remove nursing home deaths and deaths of people over 80?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:34 am to
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Thats not really true. Look at the logrithmic scale on deaths and tell me it is declining


Rate of deaths compared to # of cases is diminishing. Not saying deaths are slowing. Yes, there have been more deaths over the weekend. There have also been more tests done. As more tests are done, and more positives are coming back, that waters down the death rate of the virus per infected person.

Again, this virus will not be as bad as swine flu. Those that say it will, are just wishful thinking.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:35 am to
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Because it is much more likely to kill the average american if they get it,


The average American is 38 years old. To my knowledge, nobody under the age of 40 has died from this.

Is the average American to you a 70 year old with a heart condition?
Posted by ashy larry
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:35 am to
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The death rate is constantly diminishing as more tests are done. Then there are the asymptomatic people that we'll never know if they had it, who are not tested, so the results are skewed.


Which is why earlier testing should have been a priority. We could have had more accurate numbers and data, but no one pushed for it. The people saying more testing earlier would have had no effect or a negative effect are idiots.
Posted by Popths
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:36 am to
You didn’t have Facebook and social media hysteria back then. People are over reacting.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:36 am to
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This is complete bullshite. We know a lot about coronaviruses.
Pubmed 'coronavirus' search



Not the 2 strands of COVID 19 we’re dealing with.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:37 am to
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The average American is 38 years old. To my knowledge, nobody under the age of 40 has died from this.

Is the average American to you a 70 year old with a heart condition?


No the average american is not 70. Yes, almost half of america does have a heart condition. My comment was directed at the total population of the US. Obviously distribution is going to change risk.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:39 am to
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As more tests are done, and more positives are coming back, that waters down the death rate of the virus per infected person


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Not saying deaths are slowing.




Can you clarify this?

Statistically speaking the exponential rate of deaths has been constant.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:40 am to
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If you aren't alarmed by the number of cases jumping from the hundreds to 6,515 in one week, I don't know what to tell you


Perhaps the "jump" had something to do with the fact they started testing for it more than they did prior?

Most logical people understand that. And most logical people understand there are probably FAR more people in the US than 6,500 that likely have this. If you somehow tested every single American, I bet you'd likely have several hundred thousand positive test, right now, if not more. Hell, there are countless stories of people who have indicated that had similar symptoms 2-3 months ago...went to the doctor thinking they had the flu...only to test negative for the flu. My wife is one. Point being, this virus didn't just arrive in the US last week and start rapidly infecting people. It very like has been here for some time. Yet, the bodies aren't piling up in the streets
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:40 am to
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Because it is much more likely to kill the average american if they get it


?
Posted by TIGERBAIT84
Member since May 2007
1958 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:40 am to
Because they said so.
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