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re: So how is this worse than the Swine Flu?

Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:09 am to
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:09 am to
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What makes this so much worse than swine flu that these crazy arse precautions have to be taken?



Also, from what I’ve seen, is that if you develop pneumonia, it’s pretty much never mild as opposed to a bell curve of severity like with the flu.

Dallas admitted a 20 year old and 30 year old to an ICU yesterday because they needed to switch to a vent due to their pneumonia.
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
23472 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:09 am to
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How did you get these numbers? Didn’t H1N1 kill 12,500 Americans total? In about a year? How do you get 10,000 US deaths in the first month?







I’m CNN bitch I post what I want, who says it has to be true I got sources close to the situation
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
91688 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:09 am to
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Because it is much more likely to kill the average american if they get it, and it is spreading at an exponential rate at the moment.


No it is not. This thing is killing old people. H1N1 was killing perfectly healthy people in their 20s and killing children. The average American isn't 90 sitting in a Washington state nursing home.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 8:10 am
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:10 am to
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Well that’s just not true

I’m not an expert, maybe you can help me out.

I just googled corona vs. swine flu. Swine flu killed 12,469 Americans in 61M cases. My calculator tells me that is a 0.02% death rate.

If corona is about a 1% death rate, that is 50x.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17804 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:10 am to
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I’m CNN bitch I post what I want, who says it has to be true I got sources close to the situation


Understood. Carry on
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46610 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:10 am to
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Because it is much more likely to kill the average american if they get it, and it is spreading at an exponential rate at the moment.


It’s actually the exact opposite of this
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:11 am to
Because this is the deadly MFB Virus.

Media Fueled bullshite Virus.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:11 am to
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Pigs are our friends.


What would’ve happened if the Middle East had a swine flu epidemic.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481222 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:12 am to
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What would’ve happened if the Middle East had a swine flu epidemic.

they already had their corona virus in MERS, bubba

LINK

Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:12 am to
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No it is not. This thing is killing old people. H1N1 was killing perfectly healthy people in their 20s and killing children. The average American isn't 90 sitting in a Washington state nursing home.


Now! Now! The media has told the Chicken Littles what to believe.

Don't you come in here throwing around facts and such.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:12 am to
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Tends to happen when more testing is available. I don’t think anybody is arguing that there aren’t already 20,000 or so cases floating around. That is probably a really low number now.


New cases rate hasnt spiked like you think relative to last week.

Logarithmic rate of total cases and deaths has been basically constant, meaning steady exponential growth.

LINK

Click on the logarithmic button for both total cases and total cases.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 8:14 am
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55457 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:13 am to
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Corona appears to be about 50x deadlier by the numbers...


I hate your media so much. The fact that crap like this is even out there is disturbing.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:14 am to
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It’s actually the exact opposite of this


Do you math?
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
14616 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:15 am to
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I hate your media so much

Not sure what this means.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
21082 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:18 am to
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I’m not an expert, maybe you can help me out.

I just googled corona vs. swine flu. Swine flu killed 12,469 Americans in 61M cases. My calculator tells me that is a 0.02% death rate.

If corona is about a 1% death rate, that is 50x.




The number one issue with this pandemic is the lack of testing. Reality is we do not know how many people have it. Seems like we might not ever know how many people have it.

They’re holding tests only for those with extreme symptoms (unless you’re a celebrity apparently). So those who have a higher risk of dying due to already severe symptoms are going to skew the numbers.

It very well could be in its infancy stages of infecting the population but considering China had this shite in October and no restrictive travel occurred until January, the virus could have already infected millions.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:19 am to
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Do you math?

Do you?

Nearly half the dead were old and sick people in one nursing home.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:20 am to
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Do you?

Nearly half the dead were old and sick people in one nursing home


Want to bet on how long that talking point is valid?

Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:21 am to
I just don't think our minds - with no real experience in seeing this in our lifetime - can imagine getting to the point where we're going from 125k cases to 250k to 500k to 1m cases in a month (and beyond).

Most of us in modernity (especially in America) are patterned to think a crisis will burn itself out and we'll be ok. Those things will happen here, but based on the math (by others not me), there is no reason to believe you couldn't get to a couple hundred thousand deaths before that occurs.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:23 am to
Average age of Swine flu deaths was 41 years old.
Posted by yaherrdme
The Place to Be
Member since Feb 2004
6011 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:23 am to
Not sure.. it looks like it lasts a long time.. just from Washington alone, which was the first to discover it in the US.. only one person has recovered so far according to Johns Hopkins Map ( LINK )

Washington, US
Confirmed: 1,013
Deaths: 55
Recovered: 1
Active: 957
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