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should TOPs recipients be required to stay in LA for a set # of years after graduation?

Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:47 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:47 pm
Senate panel squashes bill requiring some TOPS students to pay back part of their award


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A Senate panel put the brakes on a bill that would have forced some TOPS students to pay back part of their scholarships.

Under SB 110, if a TOPS recipient moves away from Louisiana in the years immediately following graduation, they would have to repay the state up to 50 percent of their total award. A TOPS recipient who drops out of college and leaves the Bayou State would also have to repay part of the money.


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“Maybe it’s the encouragement that they need to stay in this state and be productive citizens here,” said Sen. Jay Luneau, D-Alexandria, who authored the bill.


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“They're not going to be contributing to the state of Louisiana as a taxpayer. I don't think it’s too much to ask them to pay back a portion of what they got to help another student who is a citizen of this state and who is going to stay here,” said Luneau.




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Posted by Pectus
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:49 pm to
Yes. Unless going to grad school.
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:50 pm to
What if they go to grad school in another state and then move back?

Its pretty dumb though because it would handicap your graduates from finding jobs unless they want to pay back $$. And I feel like it would leave a bitter taste in a lot of graduates mouths and make them more reluctant to donate to the school in the future.
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
20779 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:51 pm to
I moved to Georgia a week after I graduated for grad school.

I agree for drop outs (barring certain circumstances) should pay it back.
Posted by Pledge
Professional Baw
Member since Sep 2015
1270 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:51 pm to
Seems like a good idea if you are a commie.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61541 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:51 pm to
-Does Louisiana have the job market to support this?
-Wouldn't it push even more of the state's best and brightest OOS?

i think it's a good idea fwiw.
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6504 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:52 pm to
No.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38229 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:52 pm to
Of course not, La doesn't have enough jobs to offer as it is. And certainly not to college grads.
Just raise the reqs for qualifying and raise admission standard to the universities- of which we have too many BTW. And make the people who flunk out or quit pay the money back.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
13057 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:52 pm to
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Yes. Unless going to grad school.


Agreed. This damn state paid for your education. The least you could do is try to make it a better place.

Maybe if you can prove you couldn't find a job here. That would be the only stipulation I would put on it. If you can't find a job here, then you don't have to pay it back.
Posted by AjaxFury
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Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:53 pm to
Makes sense to want some kind of return on investment on the tax dollar. LA needs to retain as many bright minds as possible to help improve the states' condition.

Not sure if this is the solution, but there needs to be some type of incentive. Not every state has a TOPS type program.
Posted by Spankum
The Sip
Member since Jan 2007
63287 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:54 pm to
no....not unless you wanted to make a student who chose to go out of state pay back all tax dollars attributed to his education. remember, LA gets students who were educated in other states as well.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:55 pm to
I received TOPS and the answer is yes. I went to school almost entirely on the tax payer dime and I bolted to Texas as soon as I graduated. There would have to be some sort of provision for continuing education in another state or maybe deductions if you move back to offset if you start constricting back to the state. I haven't thought that much through it, but for me and hundreds of thousands of others to receive aid and never contribute to the tax base is unfair for people that pay into the system.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78006 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:56 pm to
You want to fix TOPS?

Make it only eligible for those with high GPAs and ACT scores.

You can receive TOPS with a GPA of 2.5 and an ACT of 20.

Then, you only have to maintain a 2.3 for the first year and a 2.5 for all 4 combined.

That is pretty shitty.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118270 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:57 pm to
4. Like the military.

Or 11 months, and two weeks, like the reserves.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
13057 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:58 pm to
quote:

Make it only eligible for those with high GPAs and ACT scores.

You can receive TOPS with a GPA of 2.5 and an ACT of 20.


This should have been changed the minute they slashed the amount each student gets. I wonder how many good students the state lost to out-of-state schools because of the cuts.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17464 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:58 pm to
Making the dipshits that drink their way to a 0.6 and academic suspension pay it back is good enough for me.

I see no reason to piss off the actual smart high achievers. They may send a few nickels back to the school one day.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
47705 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:59 pm to
Isn't it close to a wash when LA loses some, yet gains some that were educated in other states?

Also, when politics fricks up the movie business, a new Exxon refinery, etc., how can you blame a new grad who applies all around but only gets an interview OOS?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78006 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

Making the dipshits that drink their way to a 0.6 and academic suspension pay it back is good enough for me.
Fully agree with this.

If you lose TOPS at any point due to reasons that are academic, legal, etc., you should have to pay it back in full.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70128 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:01 pm to
This is the dumbest crap I've heard
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61541 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:01 pm to
i thought they raised it to 3.0 and 26 (or something close to that) last year?
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