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re: Should tariffs be applied to foreign labor (engineering, HR, accounting, customer support)
Posted on 10/5/26 at 12:40 pm to Upperdecker
Posted on 10/5/26 at 12:40 pm to Upperdecker
So, Exxon and other companies have their buildings engineered by some guy in India who’s just viewing the whole building on Zoom or something? And they basically have calculated that the 75% reduction of costs from hiring an engineer who can’t view the building in person is worth the 1% risk (or whatever they’ve calculated the risk to be) that this will cause the whole building to collapse and will cause Exxon to face a huge lawsuit?
Ah, that’s a pleasant thing to know the next time I walk into a building.
Ah, that’s a pleasant thing to know the next time I walk into a building.
Posted on 10/5/26 at 12:41 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Yes, we are ruining the country with H1B workers. These jobs would be better and higher paying if companies couldn't fly in a foreign national willing to work for half the price. The resulting higher paying jobs would attract more Americans into the industries we claim we cant fill.
Posted on 10/5/26 at 12:44 pm to jpainter6174
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So we can be double hosed, lost jobs overseas and then you have to pay tariffs for using companies who have said overseas interest?
Tariffs are paid by the end user... AKA us...
bullshite
as someone that works in the industry specifically he is talking about....
yes we should be
but i do feel alot of this is already correcting itself, at least on the engineering side
they are not nearly as "high value" nor do they "optimize" nearly as well as they claim and the indians have a tendency to be complete and utter assholes as they think they are better than everyone else
but short answer is yes. if you want to ship it off claiming you cant fill the job with Americans for the price you are willing to pay....then yes that should be discouraged.
I'm pretty anti tariff but the other countries are doing it to us, taking advantage of us all while we foot the bill to provide security to the whole world. its bullshite.
just like the Canadians....they tariff the hell out of us, then get all pissy when we do it back. frick them.
Posted on 10/5/26 at 12:44 pm to Upperdecker
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And any law to pay tax on employees not in the US would just result in companies using a 3rd party for the exact same service in the same country, potentially the same offshore workers
The staffing company would still incur this cost
Posted on 10/5/26 at 12:47 pm to Ramblin Wreck
that will make things more expensive for us, we are the ones paying the tariffs. The government should focus on making a more competitive labor market here.
Posted on 10/5/26 at 12:48 pm to UFFan
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Ah, that’s a pleasant thing to know the next time I walk into a building.
Think refineries and chemical plants, not buildings. Stuff with reactors and thousands of miles of pipes with flammable material crammed into a small area.
This post was edited on 10/5/26 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 10/5/26 at 12:50 pm to Loup
Perhaps you should take a salary cut? We need you to be more in line with a guy in India without indoor plumbing.
Posted on 10/5/26 at 12:50 pm to Loup
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that will make things more expensive for us, we are the ones paying the tariffs. The government should focus on making a more competitive labor market here.
We can’t compete with slave labor or indentured servitude
Posted on 10/5/26 at 12:51 pm to Upperdecker
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And employees pay income tax
Depends on the state, not all states have an income tax.
Posted on 10/5/26 at 12:53 pm to Breauxsif
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Depends on the state, not all states have an income tax.
Tarrifs are a federal tax and we have a federal income tax
Posted on 10/5/26 at 12:54 pm to theliontamer
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we are ruining the country with H1B workers.
There is a guy on eBay selling "End H1B, America First," and "Please no more student drivers," magnets for your car. If anything gets my car keyed in the H-E-B parking lot, it'll be because of them.
Posted on 10/5/26 at 1:12 pm to nealnan8
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In this scenario, who would be responsible for paying the tariff up front?
The regulation should be written such that the company paying the foreign labor pays a penalty/fee for every non-US citizen used in revenue generation on American soil.
Ultimately the buck would be passed along to the end user, but I’d be curious if the structure could be such that these jobs are cheaper for Americans to do.
Posted on 10/5/26 at 1:25 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Depends on the sector. Transportation sector, at least at the state level, won't let you bill hours for foreign workers.
Posted on 10/5/26 at 1:31 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Ultimately the buck would be passed along to the end user, but I’d be curious if the structure could be such that these jobs are cheaper for Americans to do.
Regarding engineering, ultimately I don’t think the cost changes much. As explained earlier, total project costs tend to shift versus being reduced when offshoring the engineering. This is not understood among upper management but is well understood by project engineers and project managers. Also, if the cost for engineering is increased in estimates prior to project funding, it will result in greater selectivity in which projects are approved. It won’t necessarily reduce a company’s target capital expenditure budget.
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