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re: Shooting at Orlando gay club: 50 Dead, 53 Injured, Shooter is Radical Muslim

Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:36 am to
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19580 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:36 am to
The fact that many states allow CCW in bars and the law is clear that the carrier can't drink alcohol. I don't think you quite understand the laws and the nuances being expressed here.
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
77522 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:40 am to
You can't drink while carrying. How is this shite not common sense?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:41 am to
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The fact that many states allow CCW in bars and the law is clear that the carrier can't drink alcohol. I don't think you quite understand the laws and the nuances being expressed here.


This is directed at me why?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:42 am to
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So, he hated gay and black people the most.

Do we not find it a bit curious why he didn't do this a a black night club? I will make an assumption here and call me what you will, but I will go out on a limb and say that he chose the gay club because he knew there would be a near ZERO PERCENT chance that anyone in there would have a gun to return fire.


I doubt this is the reason why he chose the gay club over a black one. First off he would have immediately stood out like a sore thumb at a black club. The bouncers would have immediately been suspicious of him and possibly stopped him right at the door. Then if he entered, people would be starring at him continuously and he wouldn't have been able to kill as many with people wondering about him from the start. He'd have no such problem walking into the gay club.

Secondly, he probably thinks that gay people choose to be gay, which by default makes them worse than blacks. On top of that, the Qaran said that gays should be put to death, and there was a Muslim who recently spoke in Orlando advocating that Muslims should go out and murder gay people.

Finally he was on murder suicide mission. I don't think he thought that much about someone else being armed at all. This is a deterrent for a crackhead robbing a gas station, but not for an Islamic Extremist looking to die for their Allah.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:43 am to
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I doubt this is the reason why he chose the gay club over a black one. First off he would have immediately stood out like a sore thumb at a black club. The bouncers would have immediately been suspicious of him and possibly stopped him right at the door.


He was stopped by an armed guard at Pulse and they got into a shootout.

Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40370 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:43 am to
quote:

The fact that many states allow CCW in bars and the law is clear that the carrier can't drink alcohol. I don't think you quite understand the laws and the nuances being expressed here.




Kind of moot point cause I seriously doubt anyone wasn't drinking at 2am on a Saturday.

9 or 10 maybe but the crowd that makes it that long is likely tanked
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 9:47 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:44 am to
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He was stopped by an armed guard at Pulse and they got into a shootout.


Wasn't aware of that one.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138934 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:44 am to
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Kind of mute point


Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
17551 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:57 am to
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I don't know how anyone could successfully spin this from an act of terror to gun control


Can it not be both?
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
69095 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:03 am to
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I would 100% want someone to return fire in this case. I don't think I'd know what was going on either way drunk at 2 AM, so I'd be equally disoriented and running for my life.


You'd probably be straightened out by all the blow you would have been doing had you been at this particular club.

ETA: meaning "you" in the hypothetical sense
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 10:06 am
Posted by widespreadpiggy
Member since Feb 2013
367 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:06 am to
Dear Gay community,

You've finally seen your enemy, and they aren't Christians.
Posted by widespreadpiggy
Member since Feb 2013
367 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:09 am to
I heard that after he was "stopped", he was allowed to pass.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:13 am to
I'd rather one person trying to shoot one perp than one perp trying to shoot everyone. All the good guy has to do is hit him once. The bad guy just has open season all night
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19580 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:24 am to
Assumption without proof, I went out a lot at those hours and not even half would be tanked. CCW holder, like the DD, would still have to be sober. Not moot, just a better grasp of the issue.
Posted by WallsAllAroundMe
Member since Jan 2016
1065 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:29 am to
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 12:01 am
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72160 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:34 am to
Of course it can be both. But even as someone who typically votes liberal, you can't tell me that refusing to call a spade a spade was not asinine. Radical Islam is the problem. If he didn't have an AR 15, he would have strapped a bomb to his chest. With these people, where there's a will, there's a way.

Should a person like him have access to guns? No. But an individual who has so much hate in his heart, who believes in his cause on a divine level, is going to find a way to kill, no matter what legislation is passed.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40370 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:38 am to
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Assumption without proof, I went out a lot at those hours and not even half would be tanked. CCW holder, like the DD, would still have to be sober. Not moot, just a better grasp of the issue.


all I am saying is that even if that were legal in Florida, I doubt it prevents Saturday/Sunday morning.

I don't see what a cc holder gets out of going bars/clubs. People go to bars to have drinks.

Most people don't have DD's now anyway, uber is effectively everyone's DD.


I understand that CC holders generally take their cc card very seriously. I know a few people with them and each one are very professional about it.
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 10:43 am
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:41 am to
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now anyway that uber is effectively everyone's D


Uber is the titties.

Really is an instant DD every night we go out.

Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:43 am to
Until our leaders grow a backbone and take measures to crush radical islam, we will see more of this garbage. Death cult Islam will only attract more sociopaths to kill civilians.

Yet, we will see our worthless politicians tap dance around political correctness and try to pin this on gun ownership.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16094 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:47 am to
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I responded to his question by saying not all gays are feminine. Pretty simple. Maybe he deleted the comment I quoted or you didn't read what I was responding too.


Oh, you mean this comment where he specifically stated that he was talking about feminine gays?

quote:

as thinking about this earlier.....would feminine gays revert back into masculine guys when SHTF? You'd think that would be something natural, but idk


He didn't say all gays were feminine. He was specifically talking about feminine gay men. You misinterpreted that and made an irrelevant tangent point. Of course not all gay men are feminine and the other guy never even said so much. He asked if gays THAT WERE FEMININE would naturally revert to a more masculine/brave role since biology and natural reaction usually take precedent when SHTF.

quote:

Pretty simple.


It is pretty simple. You completely misunderstood his question.
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