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re: Seventy-three years ago today, August 9, 1945...
Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:29 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:29 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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Bombing of Dresden
I think the issue people had with Dresden was that it wasn't really seen as advancing the war effort, regardless of the industry that was present there. Dresden has a really rich history and was a really beautiful place before the bombing. The city was essentially a giant refugee center in 1945.
Since it was in East Germany, the reconstruction was largely done in that Soviet-style.
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:30 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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We were fighting an enemy who would never stop, and we made their arse quit
Japanese soldiers stationed on various islands in the pacific continued to "fight" the war as far up to 1974. We had to drop the bomb. The japanese are a completely different breed then the germans.
BBC Story about that last Japanese soldier
Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:32 am to L1C4
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Not really our country's proudest moment in mho. I wonder how many american lives it saved.
Shut the frick up. They got their just desserts, frick Japan back then.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:34 am to ChewyDante
The firebombing raids were in part out of plain frustration. The new b29 could bomb at such a high altitude than previous bombers. The winds were so high we could not hit shite from that altitude. At that point our bombing campaign of the Japanese mainland was largely impart a failure. Curtis Lemay said f*** this and hold my beer. He sent 334 B -29 with no lights flying low at night strapped up with napalm. Needless to say we didn't miss that time.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:36 am to L1C4
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Not really our country's proudest moment in mho. I wonder how many american lives it saved.
Ever see the devastation at Pearl Harbor? Don't mess with the U.S. !
Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:38 am to L1C4
Look at this kid passing judgement from the comfort of his basement 73 years later.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:40 am to Hangit
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Go to Wiki, read The Rape Of Nanking. It will give any apologists a better idea of what our future held if the bombs were not dropped.
Disclaimer-It is a long read and the rest of your day will be ruined.
Nanking was just one incident, what they did to the Korean Peninsula, Port Author, etc. etc. The Japanese were something else.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:49 am to L1C4
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Not really our country's proudest moment
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I wonder how many american lives it saved.
These two statements contradict each other. We were at war with a nation which would apparently never surrender. It saved, in total, countless American lives, not to mention it overall undoubtedly saved more Japanese lives than it cost, too.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:07 am to L1C4
We also saved millions of Japanese civilians that would have died if we invaded . Between our regular bombings and their belief in the deity of the emperor, an invasion would have cost many more Japanese lives than the bombs and its not close .
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:16 am to Tiger in Gatorland
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We didn't start the damn war.
Neither did Japanese babies born in early 1945.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:22 am to L1C4
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we incinerated thousands of innocent women and children.
War is a dirty business. We bombed Berlin, Hamburg and other German cities back to the stone age.. Many men women and children died as a result, as did many men women and children in London and other English towns.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:27 am to ChewyDante
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I've seen widely divergent estimates on the bombing of Dresden. Anywhere from 25,000 to 100,000 deaths.
Want to shut a German up when they are dissing America? Just tell them how much you admire what a modern society Germany is. Dresden, for example, is a city that displays such amazing modern architecture.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:43 am to GrammarKnotsi
Great series. If this doesn't bring out the patriot in you, nothing will.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:50 am to L1C4
“get it. My dad was in the navy sailing to the far east when the war was over.
Don't call me unamerican because I'm not, but we incinerated thousands of innocent women and chilxren”
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our soldiers were innocent too.....truman saved lives and sent a message to Russia at the same time.
Don't call me unamerican because I'm not, but we incinerated thousands of innocent women and chilxren”
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our soldiers were innocent too.....truman saved lives and sent a message to Russia at the same time.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:59 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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My Dad was on Okinawa preparing for the invasion of Japan
Mine too. Army 77th Infantry, Drove a DUKW on Okinawa
Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:00 am to Barbellthor
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These two statements contradict each other. We were at war with a nation which would apparently never surrender. It saved, in total, countless American lives, not to mention it overall undoubtedly saved more Japanese lives than it cost, too.
They do not contradict each other. You can be not proud of something and still consider it a necessary decision.
Slaughtering innocent civilians should never be something you are proud of, but that decision was unfortunately one that had to be made to save millions.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:01 am to fjlee90
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Great series. If this doesn't bring out the patriot in you, nothing will.
lol..I thought so, but the downvotes on my post mean not enough people know the context
Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:03 am to The Boat
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Not to mention if we don’t drop the bombs in 1945 I have no doubt nuclear weapons would have been used during the Cold War.
Before that. Germany was in the process of developing their own nuclear weapon and would have surely used it on Great Britain or possible the USA.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:10 am to tommy2tone1999
Truman had to use the bomb. After all the billions spent to research, develop and build it, and the huge number of American casualties in the invasion, he would have been crucified for not using a weapon that could have ended the war.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:10 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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My best friends dad was also a navigator on a B-29, I think from the 20th AF
My Grandfather was in the 20th AF, 40th BG, 25th BS. If your best friend's dad was on Tinian, then he was in the 20th AF.
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 10:28 am
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