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re: Seventy-three years ago today, August 9, 1945...

Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:09 am to
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:09 am to
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With all the debate on how bad the atomic bombs were and were they worth it. Most people don't know that on March 9 ,1945 we fire bombed Tokyo. Killing over 100,000 civilians. Deadliest air raid in human history.


And for the small weak minded SJW who say we dropped them on Japan because they were brown people keep in mind we bombed the frick out of Germany and burned cities off the map.. killing thousands and thousands.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:10 am to
Dresden would have been deemed a war crime if done by the axis
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:11 am to
My Dad, who turned 98 in June, still to this day gives zero fricks about the Japanese.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:11 am to
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Not really our country's proudest moment in mho. I wonder how many american lives it saved.


Bait set...
Posted by Hangit
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:12 am to
Go to Wiki, read The Rape Of Nanking. It will give any apologists a better idea of what our future held if the bombs were not dropped.

Disclaimer-It is a long read and the rest of your day will be ruined.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:14 am to
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Not really our country's proudest moment in mho


To be fair, it was the single greatest display of force that has ever been deployed in the history of humanity.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:14 am to
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Not really our country's proudest moment in mho


Fair enough. Let’s put you in Truman’s shoes. You’re POTUS. The country is coming up on its fourth year of a war that’s cost billions (trillions in todays dollars) with already hundreds of thousands of deaths and countless more wounded. You’ve defeated Germany but still face an enemy in Japan who swears they’ll fight to the last man. And this enemy has proven that just recently via the blood baths at places like the Philippines, Okinawa, and Iwo Jima. Not to mention the thousands of suicide attacks they call Kamikaze. Now you’re being told that the final battle of the war will cost more American casualties than has been lost in both theaters of the entire war up to that point combined. One million American dead is what the experts are telling you. And as for the expected Japanese casualties, probably three times that high, most of which will be civilians. But you’re also told we have developed a bomb that can totally wipe out a city and probably end the war. Yes it will kill hundreds of thousands. But it will end the war without a long protracted invasion.

What do you do, Mr. President?
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 8:24 am
Posted by celltech1981
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:14 am to
didn't the fire bombing of dresden kill a comparable amount of people?
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:16 am to
I think projections are American casualties would’ve been in the 400,000s and Japans in the millions and millions including civilians. I would have definitely dropped the bombs. People in recent generations haven’t felt the sting of war like the the people in WW 1 and 2 America. I think our worst years in the Iraq Afghanistan wars were in the low 1000s
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 8:18 am
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:16 am to
We killed 100,000 people in one night in Tokyo during a firebombing raid. You people who are apologists for dropping the a bomb need to learn some history. The Asia pacific war had reached a level of violence by 1945 which is almost incomprehensible today
Posted by Hangit
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:17 am to
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What do you do, Mr. President?


Let's rock.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:17 am to
My Grandfather was a bombardier on a B-29 on Tinian then.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:18 am to
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didn't the fire bombing of dresden kill a comparable amount of people?


The fire bombing of Tokyo killed more people than either bomb.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:20 am to
Posted by ChewyDante
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:20 am to
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didn't the fire bombing of dresden kill a comparable amount of people?


I've seen widely divergent estimates on the bombing of Dresden. Anywhere from 25,000 to 100,000 deaths.

The U.S. firebombing campaign on Japanese cities prior to the atomic bombs was absolutely devastating though. Other than the long term effects caused by the radiation fallout, the violence, devastation, and barbarity of the atomic bombs wasn't much different than had we launched large scale firebombing missions over Hiroshima and Nagasaki as we had tons of other Japanese cities.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:20 am to
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My Grandfather was a bombardier on a B-29 on Tinian then.


My best friends dad was also a navigator on a B-29, I think from the 20th AF.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:25 am to
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but they didn't have to crash planes into Pearl Harbor either.



AHHHH, they didn't crash planes into Pearl Harbor, they bombed Pearl Harbor and the surrounding military facilities.

The Japs used modified torpedo bombs to do the damage on Battleship Row.

Using Kamadazee tactics came much later in the war after Japan lost most of its aircraft carriers at the Battle Of Midway and really amped up when the US invaded Okinawa.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:25 am to
Posted by justice
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:29 am to
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but we incinerated thousands of innocent women and children.
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