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re: Rules of carrying a gun
Posted on 4/3/14 at 1:34 pm to dallastiger55
Posted on 4/3/14 at 1:34 pm to dallastiger55
You should definitely pull your gun. Then, if you're lucky, the clerk will pull a gun on you and then you've a bitchin mexican standoff going. That's the dream baby!
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 1:34 pm to civiltiger07
Of course if the robber doesn't have a firearm and is just trying to rob the place I would just stay out of sight until the situation is over.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 1:37 pm to GrammarKnotsi
Did you even read the statute?
RS 14:64. Armed robbery
A. Armed robbery is the taking of anything of value belonging to another from the person of another or that is in the immediate control of another, by use of force or intimidation, while armed with a dangerous weapon.
B. Whoever commits the crime of armed robbery shall be imprisoned at hard labor for not less than ten years and for not more than ninety-nine years, without benefit of parole, probation, or suspension of sentence.
ETA: I think we're transitioning into the "pretend to be trolling" phase.
quote:Use your head.
violent or forcible felony involving danger to life or of great bodily harm
RS 14:64. Armed robbery
A. Armed robbery is the taking of anything of value belonging to another from the person of another or that is in the immediate control of another, by use of force or intimidation, while armed with a dangerous weapon.
B. Whoever commits the crime of armed robbery shall be imprisoned at hard labor for not less than ten years and for not more than ninety-nine years, without benefit of parole, probation, or suspension of sentence.
ETA: I think we're transitioning into the "pretend to be trolling" phase.
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 4/3/14 at 1:38 pm to USMCTiger03
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Yes, the law requires you to read the mind of a person pointing a gun at someone in furtherance of a robbery to determine if they are really going to shoot them before you can act.
You are correct.
well played.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 1:41 pm to Geauxtiga
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Ever hear the saying about better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6?
That doesn't really pertain to this situation.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 1:50 pm to civiltiger07
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If you want to put yourself in front of 12 morons that weren't able to get out of jury duty and trust their interpretation of the law, by all means, go right ahead.
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If I'm in a gas station, as described in the OP, and man walks in a pulls a gun on the clerk or anyone else in the building for that matter and I do have a concealed handgun on me.
The first thing I would do is see if I have a way to just get the frick out of there, and then call the cops. I'm looking to protect myself first and foremost. Really you know nothing about the situation. The robber could have other accomplishes in the building. Or the so called robbery that you think is going on might not be a robbery but an undercover cop arresting the clerk.
Second if I can't get out the building for some reason. I would find somewhere to hide while I figure out as much as I can about the situation as quickly as I can.
And lastly if I do determine that this guy is holding the clerk or someone else in the gas station at gun point, and this person is in danger of death or grave bodily harm. The next action would be to draw my firearm if I can without being noticed and if I have to draw a firearm the trigger is going to be squeezed. Of course during this process I would be getting myself in position so that if I have to shoot an innocent bystander isn't beyond the potential target.
If I do shoot and the starts to run away I would not pursue him and stop shooting, or if he drops to the ground and drops the gun I stop shooting. I continue to shoot until the threat is over.
I agree with these guys.
If the OP, or anyone else wants to carry a gun so they can fulfill a deep-rooted desire to be a cop, they need to reconsider.
There's a big difference between "Can I shoot him?" vs. "Should I shoot him?"
Most convenience stores have a sign saying that no more than $40-50 is kept in the cash register. I assume the OP isn't bulletproof -- so if he wants to risk getting killed, paralyzed, etc. by the robber, to save somebody else's $50, he might (depending on the specific circumstances) have every right to start shooting.
p.s. I often hear people (students) voicing the "John Wayne" type questions//comments that have been posted in this thread. And then when I see them shoot, it's pretty clear they are disconnected from reality when it comes to assessing their own skills.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 1:54 pm to boom roasted
Don't know how I forgot about this gem...
RS 14:22. Defense of others
It is justifiable to use force or violence or to kill in the defense of another person when it is reasonably apparent that the person attacked could have justifiably used such means himself, and when it is reasonably believed that such intervention is necessary to protect the other person.
RS 14:22. Defense of others
It is justifiable to use force or violence or to kill in the defense of another person when it is reasonably apparent that the person attacked could have justifiably used such means himself, and when it is reasonably believed that such intervention is necessary to protect the other person.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 2:02 pm to dallastiger55
yes you can but if anything happens you will be liable.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 2:12 pm to uptowntiger84
Liable for what? You realize if justified there is civil immunity?
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 4/3/14 at 2:15 pm to GrammarKnotsi
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If you shoot someone who is simply robbing a store, you will find yourself in front of a jury...
If you took a few minutes to research the topic you'd have stopped posting by now.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 2:22 pm to dawg23
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then when I see them shoot, it's pretty clear they are disconnected from reality when it comes to assessing their own skills.
The most terrifying part of cc class was shooting. Everyone in there was incompetent and dangerous. Judging by who DIDN'T point a gun at me during the class, I picked the guy who was wearing a red bandana on his head to shoot with. He may havr shot his 36 gangsta style...but he was extremely disciplined and safe.
The first shot the old lady took with her snubby .357 ended with a flying gun. Why her husband made her shoot .357 is beyond me.
Shot out the X and rolled out.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 2:24 pm to Clames
quote:That's not his style.
If you took a few minutes to research the topic you'd have stopped posting by now.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 2:31 pm to Clames
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If you took a few minutes to research the topic you'd have stopped posting by now.
Research what..There is no cut and dry answer here...You may go to court, you may not...
Posted on 4/3/14 at 2:31 pm to SuzukiGoat
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Why her husband made her shoot .357 is beyond me.
Because he doesn't know anything about firearms either. That is one of my biggest pet peeves when someone gives a woman a tiny snub nose revolver and thinks that is the perfect gun for her because it's small. Completely wrong
Posted on 4/3/14 at 2:32 pm to boom roasted
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That's not his style.
My style is to be right, until you prove me wrong..
Posted on 4/3/14 at 2:33 pm to GrammarKnotsi
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Really...Your interpretation is that if someone uses a gun in a robbery, their intent is to kill...
Excellent point. I walked up to a hooker last night with a $100 bill in my left hand and my dick in my right hand.
I had no intent to use either one... just wanted to chat.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 2:34 pm to civiltiger07
I got my girl a snubnose .38 because there is no safety and no hammer. Just grip it and rip it. Didn't want her having to prep the gun if she was ever in a life or death situation. She much prefers shooting the .45 at the range but I feel more comfortable with her using the .38 in self defense.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 2:35 pm to Bill Parker?
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. I walked up to a hooker last night with a $100 bill in my left hand and my dick in my right hand.
Not illegal
Posted on 4/3/14 at 2:36 pm to GrammarKnotsi
Posted on 4/3/14 at 2:38 pm to boom roasted
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You've been proven wrong
You're speculating with all of these...There are just as many people arrested and tried in these "self defense" cases as their are ones that are never in court.
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