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re: Rules of carrying a gun
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:13 pm to GrammarKnotsi
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:13 pm to GrammarKnotsi
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OP is not the clerk
Nor does he have to be.
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When committed against a person whom one reasonably believes to be likely to use any unlawful force against a person present in a dwelling or a place of business, or when committed against a person whom one reasonably believes is attempting to use any unlawful force against a person present in a motor vehicle as defined in R.S. 32:1(40), while committing or attempting to commit a burglary or robbery of such dwelling, business, or motor vehicle. The homicide shall be justifiable even though the person does not retreat from the encounter.
(4) When committed by a person lawfully inside a dwelling, a place of business, or a motor vehicle as defined in R.S. 32:1(40), against a person who is attempting to make an unlawful entry into the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle, or who has made an unlawful entry into the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle, and the person committing the homicide reasonably believes that the use of deadly force is necessary to prevent the entry or to compel the intruder to leave the premises or motor vehicle. The homicide shall be justifiable even though the person committing the homicide does not retreat from the encounter.
Notice how these sections of the don't justify the use of force only if YOU (or the OP) are the ones directly threatened.
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:13 pm to GrammarKnotsi
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reasonably believes
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:15 pm to GrammarKnotsi
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You're assuming the "robber" is going to kill the clerk.
So you have to wait until the clerk has been murdered before taking any action? Pointing a gun at another person is all I need to assume that your intentions are very possibly to kill that person.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:15 pm to GrammarKnotsi
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Simply brandishing a weapon is not grounds to shoot
Yeah, you just go brandish a weapon in a public place in front of a LEO and see how well that works out for you Ol' Yeller.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:16 pm to GrammarKnotsi
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Simply brandishing a weapon is not grounds to shoot
Yes it is
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:16 pm to dallastiger55
frick man you are in Jennings. You can kill a hooker and get away with it.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:16 pm to GrammarKnotsi
It's about time to switch to "pretend like you were trolling" mode to save yourself some face.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:17 pm to Peazey
I think all this debate is a perfect example as to why you should probably stay out of it. Is it right? I don't think so. But rule #1 is I'm #1 and it's not worth it.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:18 pm to PhiTiger1764
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to save yourself some face
I'll stick with "its a grey area"
If you shoot someone who is simply robbing a store, you will find yourself in front of a jury...
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:18 pm to dallastiger55
It benefits everyone to let them rob the store and leave.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:19 pm to GrammarKnotsi
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If you shoot someone who is simply robbing a store, you will find yourself in front of a jury...
Not if said thief is
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brandishing
a gun
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:19 pm to upgrayedd
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I think all this debate is a perfect example as to why you should probably stay out of it.
It really isn't a debate if it is legal, because it is legal. The debate on morality, I can see your point. (not really)
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:22 pm to GrammarKnotsi
Nothing grey about it, hoss.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:22 pm to dallastiger55
In Texas, you can pull your gun out and pull the trigger.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:24 pm to StripedSaint
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It really isn't a debate if it is legal, because it is legal. The debate on morality, I can see your point. (not really)
If you want to put yourself in front of 12 morons that weren't able to get out of jury duty and trust their interpretation of the law, by all means, go right ahead.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:24 pm to boom roasted
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Nothing grey about it, hoss.
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reasonably believes
This is grey...We obviously do not "reasonably believe" the same things...
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:27 pm to GrammarKnotsi
Fortunately there is a wealth of case history that would support the OP and your opinion on the matter is largely irrelevant.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:28 pm to upgrayedd
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If you want to put yourself in front of 12 morons that weren't able to get out of jury duty and trust their interpretation of the law, by all means, go right ahead.
If you shot a person that was brandishing a weapon towards another person and you have at least one witness and a video, you will not see a jury.
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:30 pm to GrammarKnotsi
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Simply brandishing a weapon is not grounds to shoot
Dumb...What the hell are you supposed to do?? Wait till the guy drops the clerk and then say... ok now I can shoot?
Lil late don't ya think???
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:30 pm to StripedSaint
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If you shot a person that was brandishing a weapon towards another person and you shot them and you have at least one witness and a video, you will not see a jury.
Maybe so, but I would never count on that as an absolute. Weird things happen and very seldom are things cut and dry.
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