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re: Return to office / employees quitting
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:23 am to Epic Cajun
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:23 am to Epic Cajun
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What do you need to do in-person that you can't do via Teams?
Office affairs?
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Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:24 am to concrete_tiger
Companies that aren’t flexible about this will have issues retaining employees for now while many companies are being flexible. But we don’t know the long term impacts of work from home in companies and workers yet. Short term it’s seen as a net positive for work life balance and many companies haven’t seen productivity lowered. However I started with a company during full remote and I’ve since gone to a flexible schedule, and I’ve noticed a huge difference in my work relationships and ability to get team work done once I’ve been able to talk with people in person
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:24 am to JDPndahizzy
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Not if I worked from home...
I just don't get this.
I WFH for 9 months in 2020 and it was probably my most productive year, not only with work, but with life in general.
I had my best year numbers wise for work AND I was still able to remodel my kitchen, paint the exterior of my house, build a shed, and build a fence.
And I did this with a wife and 2 young kids at the house with me.
And I was working on the dining room table, not a good office set up.
My new job doesn't really lend to a WFH situation most days now, but according to the HR lady across the hall from me, they are going to go to a more flex schedule soon to allow us to be able to WFH on days where we are not needed in the field.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:25 am to Epic Cajun
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What do you need to do in-person that you can't do via Teams?
I think there’s a benefit to knowing your co-workers beyond your work environment. I’m not saying creating life long friends or hanging out in their office all day gossiping, but it’s easier to get to know someone face to face than through a computer screen. But maybe that is boomer mentality.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:27 am to concrete_tiger
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can't offer something to one employee that they can't offer to everyone,"
bullshite.
Your employer certainly offers different renumeration packages to each employee, this ought to be negotiable as well if they actually cared(looks like they don’t, at least not enough to keep the employee).
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 8:28 am
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:29 am to Epic Cajun
quote:go to job sites
What do you need to do in-person that you can't do via Teams?
meet with vendors
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:31 am to Upperdecker
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I’ve noticed a huge difference in my work relationships and ability to get team work done once I’ve been able to talk with people in person
This benefits the same people who want to send a text and call that contacting someone
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:38 am to concrete_tiger
I’m retired and play golf at Santa Maria in Baton Rouge. Since the work from home phenomenon started during Covid, every weekday at the golf course is like a Saturday. I suppose they are getting a little work done after their round of golf.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:45 am to Commander Rabb
I guess everyone's job is different but it would be pretty noticeable if I wasn't available on Teams and able to respond to requests fairly quickly other than if I was away at lunch.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:49 am to Epic Cajun
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What do you need to do in-person that you can't do via Teams?
Move up within the company
When you go 100% remote and relocate away from the office (when you have the option to come in everyday), you’re telling management your priorities. Even if you’re a great worker they will give opportunities for advancement to people they know and see everyday.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:49 am to fallguy_1978
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I guess everyone's job is different but it would be pretty noticeable if I wasn't available on Teams and able to respond to requests fairly quickly other than if I was away at lunch.
Yup. Although I have Teams and work email on my phone so I can flex a bit if necessary.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:52 am to fallguy_1978
Does this mark the end of office romance?
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:52 am to olemissfan26
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Move up within the company
You're assuming a job where moving up in the company is possible, or even relevant.
In my line of work, you move up by moving companies.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:57 am to olemissfan26
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Move up within the company
When you go 100% remote and relocate away from the office (when you have the option to come in everyday), you’re telling management your priorities. Even if you’re a great worker they will give opportunities for advancement to people they know and see everyday.
A lot of people having been pushing this same talking point as if it's true in all instances, and it juts isn't. I'm not saying facetime isn't important at times, but this is just part and parcel of the same "butts in the seats mentality".
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:58 am to olemissfan26
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Move up within the company
When you go 100% remote and relocate away from the office (when you have the option to come in everyday), you’re telling management your priorities. Even if you’re a great worker they will give opportunities for advancement to people they know and see everyday.
True where I work. Our WFH crowd is all but forgotten and not included in any decisions, etc.. I'm sure they'll be the first to go if and when a reduction in workforce happens.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 9:00 am to redstick13
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Does this mark the end of office romance?
We still have plenty of people in the office, just not in my department. A lot of people in my company on the corporate side have jobs that require physical presence.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 9:03 am to Dawgholio
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Because there is no office politics, no group bitching about work, less idiotic meetings and bosses looking over your shoulder. People also can work when they feel more productive. Like 6am or 7pm that may not have been an option before.
Yep. People against WFH do not understand this. And I don't have people stopping by my cubicle/office every 20 minutes chit chatting and interrupting me constantly. I'm far more productive working from home. Some people love talking at the water cooler and hearing themselves in meetings.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 9:04 am to Mo Jeaux
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A lot of people having been pushing this same talking point as if it's true in all instances, and it juts isn't. I'm not saying facetime isn't important at times, but this is just part and parcel of the same "butts in the seats mentality".
It does have some merit at a lot of places. Of my 3 subordinates, one works from home a lot. She does a good job, but I’m definitely more familiar with the work of the other 2. If all 3 were up for a promotion, I would likely opt to recommend one of the 2 that are here more. A lot of it is when I need something done, it’s just easier to walk next door and ask one that is here to do it instead of emailing/calling the one at home.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 9:05 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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go to job sites
Okay, not going into the office, but I go to client sites, too.
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meet with vendors
We meet with potential clients in person, too.
Working remotely doesn't mean you literally have to spend every day at home, you can still travel for certain things if needed.
But for a lot of people, day to day work can be done remotely.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 9:07 am to Mo Jeaux
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A lot of people having been pushing this same talking point as if it's true in all instances,
i think this sentiment is true for both sides of the argument.
it's an employees market right now. employers are having to make tough decisions on what to prioritize and they aren't going to be able to make everyone happy. there is attrition in almost every field and there are more factors to it than just WFH flexibility.
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