re: Return to office / employees quitting

When I was working from home I got everything done in a record time and then some. Then I was able to cut the grass, grocery shop, cook, workout, etc all before I would've normally been home. I could spend the evenings with family and friends rather than doing chores. I never missed a deadline and even finished well ahead of most deadlines due to motivation. Now that I'm back at work 30% of my day is spent on TD or some other bs site because I have to spend 8 hours a day in this chair.

But the real advantage in working from home would be the flexibility to move wherever you want. I'd be in Montana, Idaho, or Alaska in a heartbeat

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But the real advantage in working from home would be the flexibility to move wherever you want. I'd be in Montana, Idaho, or Alaska in a heartbeat

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WFH full time would be totally worth it to me in 3 years if I can live wherever I want to. I'd probably take a pay cut for that option.

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I'm optimistic the company will be forced to rethink its position on this, but I am amazed that execs are sticking to their butts in seats attitude after such a long period of success doing what we are doing. It's no longer a trial period, it's just the way things are.

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I guess if the company has generally been successful navigating remote- it’s mighty dumb to force people back during ultra high gas prices, amongst other related expenses- just to justify having an office.

On the other hand, if you can quantify some shortfall being filled by the return that’s a different story.

A lot of middle management have a hard time with “new” and “different” because you have to stick your neck out to own a change.

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think a hybrid approach is the most sustainable long term (3 or 4 days in the office, 1 or 2 days out) . A 100% remote job sounds awesome but burnout and lack of upward mobility will eventually drive motivated people back into the office. It’s really hard to build teams, learn from others, solve problems quickly, learn office culture, etc when the majority works from home. It might just be the industry I’m in as well. Collaboration is so important and a 5 minute talk with a VP when I’m in the office changes to a calendar event, set up a time and zoom link, or call and leave a voicemail and hope he gets around to calling back that day when working from home.

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We are a bit blended where I am. My team is 3 in, 2 remote minus an admin that is currently fully in person as a point person.

I personally prefer to get out of the house, and like to give the team access to me across the board - so I rarely take advantage of WFH as the leader but it’s a decent blend.

When we onboard someone new, some of the closest peers will usually shift to 4 in and 1 remote to help the transition for a couple weeks and the newbie is full in person for 90 days

This “Collaboration” shvt is so fricking cringe. Get a frickin life outside work lol.

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I get the benefit to being in office at times. It’s better for meetings and hard projects that require teaming.

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I just don't agree with this. I've been working on a lot of machine learning/AI over the past year, very intensive learning, partnering, complicated stuff and the resulting projects are no joke.

Microsoft Teams has served us incredibly well as the folks involved in this are all over the country and all WFH employees. We have no issue with collaborating via Teams meetings, have chat groups set up for instant feedback from project members, we can share documents, present our desktops to go over code, Visio drawings, etc. I literally can't think of one benefit we'd gain by sitting in an office beside one another, unless you want to count building camaraderie via in-person lunches or happy hours which, considering the group I work with, aren't exactly exciting endeavors.

I’m a very introverted, somewhat socially awkward person, and the MS Teams/Zoom thing just isn’t the same as face to face, in the office contact. I work from home about once every couple of weeks and I feel so disconnected from the office. Not that a lot goes on here, but just those brief conversations in the break room or hallway are good diversions from work.

I don’t work as efficiently at home either because I don’t have dual monitors there, just my laptop screen. So I only work from home when I don’t have labor intensive things to do. They say they’re going to get me a docking station and 2 monitors to set up at home, but haven’t yet.

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Anyone here having any return to office turnover issues?

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This is definitely a problem for a lot of offices.

I left my job where I didn't even have to go into the office, but had to go in to client's offices because they weren't requiring clients to get with the times. Now I work for another CPA firm, completely remote, for more money.

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This “Collaboration” shvt is so fricking cringe. Get a frickin life outside work lol.

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Ahh yes wanting to efficiently work with team members means I have no life outside of work. Got it. Thanks I’ll do better and hide behind my email all day like most remote employees.