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re: Reports of over 20 young camp girls missing In TX floods

Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:51 am to
Posted by Longhorn Actual
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Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:51 am to
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Two general questions:

How many people were affected/displaced by the floods?

Also why didn’t the alert go to everyone’s phones? We get alerts here in the south Louisiana area for tornado watches, flash floods, amber alert/silver alert.

It’s all so so sad.

Edit to ask: how did they get permits for this flood zone? Look at the hoops Louisiana (and I’m sure other places) have to jump through to get building permits in some places.


I don't know those numbers. Dead/missing could be north of 500 if not already.

According to Austinites, the warnings weren't issued because Trump and Republicans are evil. The actual reason, I don't know.

The camps have been there for generations. Flood zones are typically for insurance purposes and many of the buildings have been in those spots for decades. (I believe Camp Mystic was about to celebrate their 100th ani.)


Edited to quote the post to which I was replying. Not sure what you nitwits are upset about.
This post was edited on 7/12/25 at 3:03 pm
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/12/25 at 10:34 am to
A friend's niece has finally been recovered. That's a lot of relief for them in the face of their loss. I feel so much for those families who have loved ones still missing and who may never be recovered. Excruciating.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 7/12/25 at 11:02 am to
You can see the flood line in this picture. I don't know how anything stayed in place on that bookshelf. Look closely at the top shelf and you'll see the owner's pet, Gidget, who survived. The owner thought surely she'd lost her dog in the flood. Little pup managed to save herself.

Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 7/12/25 at 11:54 am to
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Also why didn’t the alert go to everyone’s phones?


Possibly due to no cell service in some areas. I used to go to Albert Pike, the site of a similar disaster, and i went back this year (open for day use only, they shut down overnight camping after the tragedy.) Still no cell service there. Maybe due to it being located in a valley.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/12/25 at 11:54 am to
I truly can’t imagine the grief and anguish they are going through.

They haven’t located the little girl from Bellville which is about 10 mins away from us.
This post was edited on 7/12/25 at 11:56 am
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/12/25 at 11:56 am to
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Possibly due to no cell service in some areas.


It’s little to no service west of Ingram. Ingram and Kerrville have cell coverage.
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 7/12/25 at 12:14 pm to
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Posted by dallastigers
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Posted on 7/12/25 at 1:00 pm to
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Also why didn’t the alert go to everyone’s phones? We get alerts here in the south Louisiana area for tornado watches, flash floods, amber alert/silver alert.



The NWS issued something like 22 MEAs around the 4th “with one at 4:03 a.m. warning of “catastrophic” flooding”, but besides many camps limiting cell phones I think many vacationers treated them like they do others back at their home area and maybe even had them silenced. The locals may or may not have done the same, but they are probably even more used to seeing them and then actually seeing how high the river gets even with some bad flooding with some residents thinking they were at a safe level like in the past.

One criticism that I read is that the county didn’t issue as many alerts and didn’t issue any through MEAs (mobile emergency alerts on cell phones), and some have thought the locals might have laid more attention to alerts from county. Also that maybe the MEA process would have reached more phones quicker after alert sent out than just using the county’s CodeRed text system.

The county used the system that calls and leaves messages on all listed landlines in set area and calls/texts cell phones that have signed up for the alerts from the county. The county also might have done this during or after the camps and Hunt had been flooding already, and the text service had issues at that point. Some phones received those texts hours after alert was sent out by the county.

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According to emergency radio transmissions The Texas Newsroom reviewed, volunteer firefighters asked for what’s called a “CodeRED” alert to be sent as early as 4:22 a.m. Dispatchers delayed, saying they needed special authorization.

Some residents received flood warnings from CodeRED within an hour. Others told The Texas Newsroom they did not receive their first alert until after 10 a.m., raising questions about why the messages that residents received were sporadic and inconsistent.
This post was edited on 7/12/25 at 1:21 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:55 pm to
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KERRVILLE, TX – Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem on Friday presented military medals to four U.S. Coast Guard aircrew members for their heroism during catastrophic flash flooding at Camp Mystic on July 4.

The decorated aircrew responded to a life-threatening emergency after heavy rainfall caused the Guadalupe River to rise 26 feet in just 45 minutes, sweeping away cabins and stranding more than 200 campers.

Among the honorees was Petty Officer 3rd Class Scott C. Ruskan, a native of Oxford Township, and graduate of Warren Hills Regional High School. Ruskan received the Distinguished Flying Cross for his bravery and quick thinking under extreme conditions.

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“This is what the men and women of the Coast Guard do,” Noem said during the ceremony. “The selfless courage of this crew embodies the spirit and mission of the U.S. Coast Guard.”

As the rescue swimmer aboard MH-65E helicopter 6553, Ruskan made three attempts to reach survivors before volunteering to stay behind on the ground, where he triaged victims and coordinated the evacuation of 169 people under hazardous conditions, including rising water, unstable terrain and limited communications.

“These extraordinary actions ensured many lives were saved that day,” Noem said.

Other medal recipients included:

Lt. Ian M. Hopper, aircraft commander, awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross for launching the first rescue flight and navigating dangerous weather with near-zero visibility.

Lt. Blair O. Ogujiofor, co-pilot, awarded the Air Medal for leading the coordination of two medevac helicopters and helping land in tight valleys amid limited visibility.

Petty Officer 3rd Class Seth N. Reeves, aviation maintenance technician, awarded the Air Medal for ensuring a timely launch by preparing a second aircraft after a malfunction, and helping navigate in poor weather.

“In the face of devastating floods in Texas, this Coast Guard aircrew’s courageous actions saved lives and reaffirmed our vital role in protecting American communities,” said Adm. Kevin Lunday, acting commandant of the U.S. Coast Guard.

The crew’s combined efforts directly rescued 18 individuals and helped facilitate the evacuation of 169 others, working in coordination with federal and state agencies.

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Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:54 pm to
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Meteorologist Nick Mikulas · The same area that experienced catastrophic flooding just over a week ago is under a moderate risk for flash flooding tonight. Models are indicating isolated areas of 10+ inches of rain in the Hill Country. I know a lot of people travel this time of year, and while the chance of a repeat of what happened 8 days ago is very low, this area is quite prone to flooding, and if anyone reading this is in that area, I want you to be aware of the potential. I'll have our local update tomorrow morning.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75181 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:57 pm to
I was about to mention that. Excessive Rainfall Outlook was bumped up to Moderate tonight. The highest totals are in a narrow area, but both the HRRR and NAM are over 9" of rain for the same general area.
Posted by SWLA92
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Posted on 7/12/25 at 10:48 pm to
What areas are the HRRR showing? I saw one model I couldn’t remember which one showing between Junction and Kerrville I think.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75181 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 12:24 am to
Most of the longer duration rain looks to stay north and east of Kerrville.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 12:27 am to
Radar looking rough to 6am for hill country
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105312 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 12:33 am to
Somebody downvotes the Coast Guard aircrew being awarded for exemplary service
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
19385 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 12:42 am to
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Somebody downvotes the Coast Guard aircrew being awarded for exemplary service


Bruh we are getting old and it happens sometimes.

Half of us are retarted to start with. Then comes the eye site going in our 40’s and 50’s. Haven’t even talked about the booze yet.

Then there’s the fat finger downvote and not realizing you can change your vote.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75181 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 11:10 am to
15 active flood warnings currently across some of the same areas of the hill country.

The Lampasas River is near major flood stage.

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It has been raining all night and all morning in some places.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 11:14 am to
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97024 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 11:47 am to
That’s some roaring water.

Whoever shared the Texas Monthly article thank you. Such a harrowing experience and RIP Clay
Posted by Tr33fiddy
Hog Jaw, Arkansas (it exists)
Member since Aug 2023
1971 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 12:04 pm to
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Possibly due to no cell service in some areas. I used to go to Albert Pike, the site of a similar disaster, and i went back this year (open for day use only, they shut down overnight camping after the tragedy.) Still no cell service there. Maybe due to it being located in a valley


It is 100% the terrain blocking cell service. Climb to the top of a ridge and you'll have full bars if you have verizon. I've been a lifelong resident in the area and there are tons of dead service zones between the ridges. I've had to climb ridges here in Central Arkansas to get an emergency call out more times than I can remember.

What's really strange is that I've been in dead zones before and unable to make a normal call but 911 is clear as a bell. I have no idea how that works.
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