re: Quiet Quitting? Well that a new term.

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How Much Does a Plumber Make? Plumbers made a median salary of $56,330 in 2020. The best-paid 25 percent made $75,370 that year, while the lowest-paid 25 percent made $42,330.

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seems like most plumbers are poor

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you're applying micro solutions to macro problems

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More importantly, he's making the same argument the operator did, but with a lesser job.

a. This thread isn't about hourly employees.

b. This thread is about advancement, something that plumbers and operators don't really get to do much of. At least plumbers could, theoretically, open up their own shop, I guess...but that's not what the thread is about, either.

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Because they aren’t benefiting from taking up the work.

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good for them.

I'll bet these are the people who have the same issue wherever they work.

Choosing an employer is as important as choosing an employee. Find one that suits you.

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a. This thread isn't about hourly employees.

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right. i kind of covered that in my edit.

this article and most of these similar discussions are about office workers at giant corporations. it's pretty obvious who has and has not worked in that world.

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So does being a drug addicted alcoholic but I guess that's something that some people also don't understand.

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Poor little Johnny got his feelings hurt again.

Does it make more sense if you read it as employers? Otherwise, I'm not seeing the confusion.

Good companies that offer training, additional learning, and advancement still have disconnected, soft working people filter through. And they often are the loudest about their issues with the work in their short time at their various stops.

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I have not quiet quit my job, not even close, but I understand why it's happening. It has a lot to do with lack of wage growth and lack of advancement in their careers.

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Even beyond this, I think it's also because people just flat-out don't want to be there and why do more work when you don't want to be doing that work in the first place (but have to, in order to pay your bills).

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Both my parents came from the bottom. Both had to work after school to help their parents pay rent. My mom's side of the family had MANY men fight in WW2, while my dad's side were all poor farmers.

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You are all missing the point of those posts.

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As a Gen Xer, I was the first person on both sides of my family to go to college.

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This isn’t saying that they started with a silver spoon in their mouths.

The fact is, the boomer generation, almost as a whole, was able to advance into middle class/upper middle class without having to go college.

Hell, you could purchase a decent home (if even a fixer upper) with a blue color salary easily.

That does not exist anymore for those of us in the younger generations.

The wife and I are both doctors. The housing market is pretty fricking daunting just for us. I can’t imagine what it is like for those who don’t make money like we do.

College kids cannot work to pay for school anymore, and come out saddled with debt.

Wages have not increased with inflation or production.

Hell, people talking about driving beater cars. The boomers always talk about that. So, what did the boomers turn around and do? They destroyed the used car market in 2009 with “Cash for Clunkers”. Now, used cars are as expensive as new cars were 15-20 years ago.

Every system that boomers talk about “doing better” back in the day was made impossible to replicate by their own actions.

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think it's also because people just flat-out don't want to be there and why do more work when you don't want to be doing that work in the first place

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i think it has more to do with a change in the mindset of how the average employee views his or her relationship with their employer. its a job. you are going to do your job because thats what you agreed to do. nothing more, nothing less. and you dont owe your company shite because they feel the same way about you

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The fact is, the boomer generation, almost as a whole, was able to advance into middle class/upper middle class without having to go college.

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I had to work full time while going to college to afford college and expenses.

The real unemployment rate was 25% in my area. There was no choice but to go to college because wages were $3.10 an hour and no one could afford to pay more.. I built my house because I couldn't afford 15% interest.

Those who chose tech did very well though.