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re: Quiet Quitting? Well that a new term.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Other people end up taking up up the work these people don't touch, and benefit.
These are the people who are “quietly quitting”. Because they aren’t benefiting from taking up the work.
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Its opportunity and pays off in the future.
But it's not paying off. That's the whole problem.
Too much glut ahead of them so there is no advancement to be had.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:09 pm to Dawgfanman
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These are the people who are “quietly quitting”. Because they aren’t benefiting from taking up the work.
Someone will, and they'll increase their value. They'll be the ones who get ahead.
I'm for slacking, if you accept the responsibility that comes with it. Don't complain when things go south and you're behind everyone else.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Its opportunity and pays off in the future.
In some cases, especially in a corporate environment with many layers of management, the boss will just ride that horse until it has nothing left and then cast it aside.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:10 pm to JudgeHolden
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You can work to the level of your pay. But you will be paid at the level of your value.
Quiet quitting precludes value gains.
These value gains are theoretical only, at this point. That's the entire problem.
What used to increase value doesn't do much today b/c there is too much glut ahead of them.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:11 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I'm guessing these are kids who don't see a connection between their input and continued compensation.
The problem is you older people assume that the paradigm that existed in your youth, where there was a connection between input and compensation, exists today.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:12 pm to tigerinthebueche
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But I don’t think your example is the same as some loser dogging it at work on a Monday.
That isn't the example.
"Quiet quitting" means they do their job, but only their job.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:13 pm to Dawgfanman
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People who offer chances to gain these to employees, don’t have those people “quiet quitting”.
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
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, where there was a connection between input and compensation, exists today.
It does, unless you're in an industry that pays and promotes on seniority alone, or working fast food.
If you've ever managed multiple employees, you'll get it. The ones who step up will be the ones you promote.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:14 pm to sawtooth
I see it mostly in the service industry.
I can get a waitress who is outstanding. Those I tip well.
More often than not though I get one that acts like they’re doing me a favor by being there. $.02 tip incoming
I can get a waitress who is outstanding. Those I tip well.
More often than not though I get one that acts like they’re doing me a favor by being there. $.02 tip incoming
Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What used to increase value doesn't do much today b/c there is too much glut ahead of them.
Then find an area that is gaining in value.
I’ve never met a poor plumber.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:16 pm to JudgeHolden
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Then find an area that is gaining in value.
I’ve never met a poor plumber.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Someone will, and they'll increase their value. They'll be the ones who get ahead.
We are running low on “someones”. I manage a team in the IT industry, if I lose a senior person or even an mid level one, they are nearly impossible to replace with a person of similar skills. I can promote, but it’ll take years to get that person up to the same level. And then backfilling the entry level role is gonna cost me more. If I don’t keep all of them challenged, working on something “new”..they tend to slack off. That’s my job, to prevent that. Humans are predictable. It’s not that they are bad people or workers, they are just humans…..give bananas, get tricks.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:17 pm to llfshoals
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I see it mostly in the service industry.
Its a lower class mentality
Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:17 pm to sawtooth
quote:Would you have done that for straight salary? How about if you were 3 months in and they gave you a 1% raise? Would you have done the other 4 months?
It’s time to be an adult. I’ve worked 7 months/84 hours a week once. I also made a shite pile of money.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:I still have a major problem with this definition. Fulfilling the bare minimum of your contract should be known as "doing your job."
"Quiet quitting" means they do their job, but only their job.
It isn't "quiet quitting" until you're doing less than you have agreed to do and just hoping that no one notices or cares.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:18 pm to JudgeHolden
quote:you're applying micro solutions to macro problems
Then find an area that is gaining in value.
I’ve never met a poor plumber.
eta: and it seems like that's what a lot of people are doing... completely changing careers away from the mega-corporation cube farm world where this stuff is most prevalent and most of the complaining comes from (on both sides).
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:19 pm to tokenBoiler
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Would you have done that for straight salary?
If I knew it was part of the deal going in, frick yes. Thats generally what adults do.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Nah, that's a false statement. Unless you don't believe good employers exist. Show me any decent sized company, and you'll show me a company that deals with this same shite on some level.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:20 pm to Chuck Barris
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It isn't "quiet quitting" until you're doing less than you have agreed to do
I believe its exactly what it means. I'd bet most people do the bare minimum and don't have a lot of ambition. Quite quitting seems more like shirking duty.
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 1:22 pm
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