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re: Property Tax for roads FAILED at the Council.

Posted on 9/13/17 at 6:27 pm to
Posted by gatorhater08
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 6:27 pm to
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I'm clueless to the whole proposition of these taxes, but if you live there, don't you use the roads and therefore benefit from improvement of those roads? I'm sure there's much more to it that I'm missing, but at face value, it doesn't seem unreasonable. But then again, it is Louisiana.


I think it's because a lot of people live in surrounding parishes but work and shop in br. A proposed sales tax would be better.

For the record I am in the no increase until you start using our funds properly. Government officials should have to take a high school level money management course before their first day in office.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 6:27 pm to
It is white people's fault, we voted it down just to see Broome fail. This tax would have fixed all of the roads in BR
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30308 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 6:30 pm to
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how does anyone propose we fix the traffic problem and substandard road situation in Baton Rouge and the state of Louisiana? 


I've voted for road and infrastructure tax increases pretty much every time up until the last election and a lot of them passed. Hell tell me how the roads have improved since the last time we uped the state tax on gas......the answer is 0. Until they show me they can do something meaningful with the dollars I already give them I certainly won't vote to give them another penny.
This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 6:31 pm
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 6:31 pm to
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For the record I am in the no increase until you start using our funds properly. Government officials should have to take a high school level money management course before their first day in office.



Yea it's really sad. For those who don't think Shreveport is Louisiana, just look at what they're doing and trying to do right now. Vintage Louisiana.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139229 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 6:36 pm to
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So the answer is "because Louisiana" makes sense

Pretty much. The overt corruption and blatant incompetency shouldn't be rewarded with more money
Posted by King of New Orleans
In front of The Hungry Tiger
Member since Jul 2011
11124 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 6:36 pm to
Sorry if this is a stupid question but does this mean the Pecue Lane exit/on ramps WILL NOT happen?
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78700 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 6:37 pm to
Maybe
Posted by King of New Orleans
In front of The Hungry Tiger
Member since Jul 2011
11124 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 6:43 pm to
Thanks. I didn't know for sure if that was even listed in the clowns master plan or not.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 6:47 pm to
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and take 2 years to add an exit ramp off the interstate. 2


You people need less exits on i10, not more. What the frick are y'all doing over there?



(Please note the use of second person subject since I don't live there anymore.)
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
131102 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 6:55 pm to
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Thanks. I didn't know for sure if that was even listed in the clowns master plan or not.



They've already started work on that project.
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
26238 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 6:59 pm to
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For those who don't think Shreveport is Louisiana, just look at what they're doing and trying to do right now. Vintage Louisiana.


What are they doing? The only thing that has been carrying on for a while is the I-49/220 interchange, but that's a pretty massive project.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 7:02 pm to
The $30 million arena for a shite league pelicans team they tried to do, but thankfully got shot down.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36637 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 7:07 pm to
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I've voted for road and infrastructure tax increases pretty much every time up until the last election and a lot of them passed. Hell tell me how the roads have improved since the last time we uped the state tax on gas......the answer is 0.




How old are you?
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30308 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 7:12 pm to
What does that matter?

37 FWIW
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43084 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 7:13 pm to
The biggest problem is we pass taxes for things like CATs, COA, schools, libraries, parks and not other things like roads.

We spend plenty of money but we don't have enough for everything and we need to prioritize better.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36637 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 7:15 pm to
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What does that matter? 37 FWIW



You've never voted for a state gas tax
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23623 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 7:15 pm to
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You people need less exits on i10, not more. What the frick are y'all doing over there?

And what do you mean by that
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25240 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 7:16 pm to
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Pass a sales tax, but you're not squeezing us for more property taxes.


Sales taxes are already too high. A .5-1¢ is a much better way to raise road funds. It's how a lot of interstates were built in that state, and how they paid to widen the Huey P Long Bridge in Elmwood.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49697 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 7:16 pm to
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Property Tax for roads FAILED at the Council.
quote:
how does anyone propose we fix the traffic problem and substandard road situation in Baton Rouge and the state of Louisiana? 


I've voted for road and infrastructure tax increases pretty much every time up until the last election and a lot of them passed. Hell tell me how the roads have improved since the last time we uped the state tax on gas......the answer is 0. Until they show me they can do something meaningful with the dollars I already give them I certainly won't vote to give them another penny.




Ok since I don't feel like spending my Wed evening googling "when did LA raise gas tax and what the frick did they do" I'll leave it to you to show me when they raised it and what they DID not do.

But if you want to look at the Greenlight Plan that was originally the "pot hole tax" that was a temporary tax started by a republican mayor who was scared of his shadow. It was then asked by a black democrat mayor to make it a permanent sales tax in order to bond the dedicated revenue-which the Parish of EBR approved and tell me it didn't make a difference. In that short period the road work done was amazing. But hey let's leave it at that and call it a fricking day because we are pissed because we perceive nothing meaningful was done.

You are the reason you sit in traffic daily. Not me or a politician. You alone are the reason and you fricking deserve it.

All the people calling for accountability fricking stand up, move this forward and while doing it HOLD EVERYONE-INCLUDING YOURSELVES-accountable.

Either that or shut the frick up and quit complaining because you are as much to blame as the people you are blaming.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25240 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 7:18 pm to
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Hell tell me how the roads have improved since the last time we uped the state tax on gas......the answer is 0. Until they show me they can do something meaningful with the dollars I already give them I certainly won't vote to give them another penny.




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The TIMED (Transportation Infrastructure Model for Economic Development) Program was a $5.2 billion transportation infrastructure program designed to increase economic development in Louisiana by investing in transportation improvement projects. The program began in 1989 when voters approved a 4¢/gallon tax on gasoline to fund the projects designated by Act 16 of the 1989 Louisiana legislature. The TIMED program included widening over 500 miles of state highways to four lanes on 11 project corridors, widening and/or new construction on three major bridges, and improvements to both the Port of New Orleans and Louis Armstrong International Airport.
The program, originally scheduled for completion in 2004, was significantly behind schedule by the late 1990s and a new completion target of 2031 was estimated. In 2002, LA DOTD took steps to get the program back on track. Debt financing was applied to the project and LA DOTD hired a private manager, Louisiana TIMED Managers (LTM), to oversee the accelerated TIMED schedule. A revised completion date of 2010 was estimated.
However, the TIMED Program was also impacted by Hurricanes Katrina and Rita in 2005 that resulted in increased cost estimates and completion delays to 2016.
LTM served as an extension of LA DOTD and managed the overall program delivery, the financing strategy, public outreach, scheduling, pre-construction activities, and construction administration


So, where's that penny?

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