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re: Possible massive physics breakthrough: Room temperature, ambient pressure superconductor
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:39 pm to BoardReader
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:39 pm to BoardReader
quote:in what ways short term and long-term?
The change in battery technology alone would be world-altering.
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:41 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:and yet it will all look strangely familiar
Someone on Bloomberg said if this pans out you won't recognize the world in 10 years.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:43 pm to FearlessFreep
For real..plus that new metal, and AI tech
All falling into place
All falling into place
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:58 pm to SEClint
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in what ways short term and long-term?
Just about every way you can imagine. In theory, you'd completely change the demand for traditional battery materials, the efficiency of batteries, the storage life of batteries, the size and capacity.
I mean, really-- it'd almost be a new tech. Imagine a battery with an essentially perpetual shelf life. That'd be a lower order improvement.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 3:35 pm to BoardReader
We've seen this story before though
Posted on 8/1/23 at 3:50 pm to WB Davis
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Anyone care to offer some predictions?
We finally get a real hoverboard!
Posted on 8/1/23 at 3:58 pm to Fun Bunch
Another advance made possible by reverse engineering alien spacecraft.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 4:06 pm to jdd48
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Power could become cheaper because of lossless transmission through the grid.
I saw a video explaining how super conductors would be the key to a true "green revolution". The main thing being your point about no loss transmission. We could scale up a source like solar because you could strategically place solar farms in key places where sunlight is abundant with very few cloudy/rainy days and be able to transmit that energy as far as it needed to go without losing any of it through the heat of lines like we do today.
That video stated that on average, half of the produced power is lost through the transmission lines today. Sounded like a lot, but I have no idea if it's close or not.
This post was edited on 8/1/23 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 8/1/23 at 4:53 pm to WB Davis
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We've seen this story before though
Not really, no. Replicability is the test, and this has at least some scale of replicability. Tht's not something we've seen before.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 5:13 pm to Fun Bunch
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Ok, for those completely lost, just list 3 reasons
1) Energy would be drastically more efficient
2) Computers would run significantly faster with lower power consumption (think having a Quantum Computer on your desk)
3) Maglev trains could run at much longer distances at much lower costs
4) You could have efficient, low power, portable MRI machines"
..... 5) the milkshake machines at McDonalds would break-down at a much lower rate.
Ok, for those completely lost, just list 3 reasons
1) Energy would be drastically more efficient
2) Computers would run significantly faster with lower power consumption (think having a Quantum Computer on your desk)
3) Maglev trains could run at much longer distances at much lower costs
4) You could have efficient, low power, portable MRI machines"
..... 5) the milkshake machines at McDonalds would break-down at a much lower rate.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 5:39 pm to highcotton2
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However, if my maths are correct it is "only" about 280kWh, so cool but not commercially viable anywhere except maybe the mouth of the Catatumbo River.
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While only lasting a millisecond, a flash of lightning is thought produce up to 10 gigawatts (GW) of electricity, which would be a sixth of the capacity of all the rooftop solar panels in the U.S. in 2021.3
That sounds like a lot of electricity but it still isn't in the big picture.
(either my math is wrong or the one of the numbers we both got are wrong, the two are 2 magnitudes off if someone sees something I am missing let me know I am headed out from work so I don't want to redo it now)
10 Gigawatts is 10,000,000,000 watts over 1 millisecond
so 10,000,000 watt/seconds
so 10,000 kilowatt/seconds
so 2.78 kWh which is exactly 1/100th of my former calculation from joules, I added or dumped a couple of decimal points somewhere
Assuming the higher number 278 kWh is not a lot of (commercial) electricity I use that much in my house over 2.5 days in the summer.
So a lot of juice in a short time but on the whole US commercial side it isn't much. It just isn't commercial viable unless you can harvest a large percentage of the lightning strikes across the US which might power just homes for 3-4 months of the year if you harnessed all the strikes.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 5:46 pm to Fun Bunch
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Possible massive physics breakthrough: Room temperature, ambient pressure superconductor
This post was edited on 8/1/23 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 8/1/23 at 5:48 pm to Fun Bunch
Will be great if true. Im filing this with cold fusion until I see a valid confirmation.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 5:48 pm to IAmNERD
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We could scale up a source like solar because you could strategically place solar farms in key places where sunlight is abundant with very few cloudy/rainy days and be able to transmit that energy as far as it needed to go without losing any of it through the heat of lines like we do today.
So would there be an efficiency gain with the solar panels themselves? Would this help to harness more power per square foot, which in combination with improved battery tech would make solar more of a realistic option for residential applications?
Posted on 8/2/23 at 10:29 am to IAmNERD
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I saw a video explaining how super conductors would be the key to a true "green revolution".
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We could scale up a source like solar because you could strategically place solar farms in key places where sunlight is abundant with very few cloudy/rainy days and be able to transmit that energy as far as it needed to go
Nothing says “green revolution” quite like converting and destroying large swathes of habitat to solar or wind farms!
Posted on 8/2/23 at 10:34 am to Sasquatch Smash
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Nothing says “green revolution” quite like converting and destroying large swathes of habitat to solar or wind farms!
I see where you are coming from, and while a desert is still a habitat, the impact of setting up a solar farm in the middle of a desert doesn't have quite the impact of setting one up in a more hospitable environment.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 1:49 pm to ApisMellifera
Just think of all the chinese and african kids that will be looped into labor camps to harvest these materials.
There's a whole shitload of electrical lines to replace.
Hopefully they put them all underground so our communities and highways and greenspace returns to green.
There's a whole shitload of electrical lines to replace.
Hopefully they put them all underground so our communities and highways and greenspace returns to green.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 2:09 pm to Meauxjeaux
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Hopefully they put them all underground so our communities and highways and greenspace returns to green.
Everyone reading this will be dead of old age before anything from this comes to market at a price anyone will be able to afford.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 2:17 pm to TigerFanatic99
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Everyone reading this will be dead of old age before anything from this comes to market at a price anyone will be able to afford.
Ridiculous assumption. If this works then people will be accelerating to bring it to market and start putting it in products.
You're saying it'll be at least 50 years before it's commercially available.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 2:50 pm to Meauxjeaux
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Just think of all the chinese and african kids that will be looped into labor camps to harvest these materials.v
One of the many appeals of this is that it does just the opposite of that- it takes a ton of low skill labor like that out of harvesting inefficient minerals for things like battery tech-- the process involves incredibly cheap materials, and are relatively easy to make.
Even production at scale would be, at least in theory, better than anything we have now. The downside is that there's an emerging pattern of observation that this may be a more limited breakthrough than a true revolutionary change in superconductivity.
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