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re: Porsche Cayenne recs?
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:07 am to Clames
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:07 am to Clames
quote:
I think they are ranked pretty highly in terms of how badly they depreciate.
The depreciation on a new Porsche is insane. A friend of mine in Florida bought a 911 Carrera and sold it 3 months later with less than 1400 miles on it for a 24k dollar trade in hit.
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:07 am to JohnnyKilroy
quote:
Your boss walk to work?
I bought a new vehicle Dec 2015 and only have 6,500 miles on it. I drive to work every day. It's certainly plausible.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:09 am to dcrews
quote:
I bought a new vehicle Dec 2015 and only have 6,500 miles on it. I drive to work every day. It's certainly plausible.
I have a 2009 vehicle with a little over 24,000 miles on it.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:10 am to foj1981
Your brother wants a Cayenne or your sister in law does?
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:19 am to NewIberiaHaircut
Where the heck is 911Moto to give us the final answer???
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:29 am to LCA131
$500 oil changes! Frick that. There's a ton of youtube vids out there to DIY
It looks like you have to remove a bunch of the plastic belly pans but it is straight forward once you do.
Youtube
You will need:
Oil filter
Oil filter cap ring gasket
Drain plug washer
10 quarts of Porsche A40 approved spec synthetic oil
36 mm 6 or 12 point socket
10 mm socket
T30 Torx bit or driver
8 mm Hex bit
Minimum 12 quart capacity oil drain pan
1. Remove plastic engine skid plate guards
2. Loosen the 2 oil drain plugs and collect engine oil in a disposal container. Dispose of waste oil in accordance
with legal requirements.
3. Loosen oil filter with special tool oil filter spanner P 9204 and unscrew it.
4. Remove the oil filter housing vertically downwards. Drain the remaining oil into a disposal container.
5. Remove the filter element. Remove the filter downwards and dispose of in accordance with legal requirements.
6. Clean the oil filter housing and replace the O-ring seal. Clean the oil filter housing thoroughly inside and outside and replace the O-ring. Carefully lever off the O-ring. The oil filter housing must not be damaged during this procedure.
7. Install the filter element
8. Lightly oil the filter housing O-ring.
9. Install the oil filter housing and tighten using special tool oil filter spanner P 9204. Tightening torque: 19 ftlb.
10. Clean oil drain plugs and screw in with new aluminum sealing rings. Tightening torque: 37 ftlb.
11. Fill in engine oil. The oil change quantity is filling capacity: 8.75 liter .
12. Pull out oil dipstick and wipe it off with a clean, lint-free cloth. Insert oil dipstick again fully, pull it out again, and read off the oil level. Correct engine-oil level if necessary.
13. Sart up the engine. The oil pressure light should stay on for about a second or two and then go out. Take a quick look underneath the car. Verify that there's no volume of oil seeping out of the engine. Take the car out for a drive and bring it up to operating temperature. Shut the car off and then recheck the oil level.
14. Reinstall plastic engine skid plate guards
It looks like you have to remove a bunch of the plastic belly pans but it is straight forward once you do.
Youtube
You will need:
Oil filter
Oil filter cap ring gasket
Drain plug washer
10 quarts of Porsche A40 approved spec synthetic oil
36 mm 6 or 12 point socket
10 mm socket
T30 Torx bit or driver
8 mm Hex bit
Minimum 12 quart capacity oil drain pan
1. Remove plastic engine skid plate guards
2. Loosen the 2 oil drain plugs and collect engine oil in a disposal container. Dispose of waste oil in accordance
with legal requirements.
3. Loosen oil filter with special tool oil filter spanner P 9204 and unscrew it.
4. Remove the oil filter housing vertically downwards. Drain the remaining oil into a disposal container.
5. Remove the filter element. Remove the filter downwards and dispose of in accordance with legal requirements.
6. Clean the oil filter housing and replace the O-ring seal. Clean the oil filter housing thoroughly inside and outside and replace the O-ring. Carefully lever off the O-ring. The oil filter housing must not be damaged during this procedure.
7. Install the filter element
8. Lightly oil the filter housing O-ring.
9. Install the oil filter housing and tighten using special tool oil filter spanner P 9204. Tightening torque: 19 ftlb.
10. Clean oil drain plugs and screw in with new aluminum sealing rings. Tightening torque: 37 ftlb.
11. Fill in engine oil. The oil change quantity is filling capacity: 8.75 liter .
12. Pull out oil dipstick and wipe it off with a clean, lint-free cloth. Insert oil dipstick again fully, pull it out again, and read off the oil level. Correct engine-oil level if necessary.
13. Sart up the engine. The oil pressure light should stay on for about a second or two and then go out. Take a quick look underneath the car. Verify that there's no volume of oil seeping out of the engine. Take the car out for a drive and bring it up to operating temperature. Shut the car off and then recheck the oil level.
14. Reinstall plastic engine skid plate guards
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 10:30 am
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:31 am to jbgleason
quote:
Mercedes SUV that took Mobil 1 synthetic. With the V8 and dual turbos it held some insane quantity of oil. Like 8 or 10 quarts. The stupid oil change with filter and all ran up to $500. $70 air filters, $500 tires. My current sedan has had three windshields at $1500 per. shite adds up.
That sounds like the literal description of pissing away money.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:32 am to foj1981
Fastest depreciating luxury SUV on the market. No thanks.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:48 am to Carson123987
quote:
Fastest depreciating luxury SUV on the market. No thanks.
Which could make this a good buy. Someone else has already taken the huge depreciation hit. It's also low mileage.
What hasn't been mentioned is that this car is still under warranty.
I'm a former Cayenne owner. Except for a couple of known items it ran like a champ. Under powered but extremely good handling for its size and weight. Driving a Porsche is different. You get a feel for the road that lesser vehicles just don't give you. It's hard to understand until you've spent time driving one.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:58 am to VABuckeye
quote:
You get a feel for the road that lesser vehicles just don't give you
Why the hell would I want to "feel" Louisiana roads?
If that was the case, I would hope each oil change came with chiropractic adjustments
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:58 am to foj1981
First, find a good indie mechanic who lets your buy your own parts.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:16 am to foj1981
That's a crazy price. Buy it.
I have 70k miles on my 2011 and it's only needed fluid changes and brake pads. Oil is every 10k miles and was around $200 with a tire rotation (so ~$60 every 3,000 miles). Brake pads are $300 but last a hellova long time. The only issue with the V6 is that the water pump tends to go around 75k miles (according to internet forums), and is about $600 to replace with labor. Mine was checked at the 70k service and still looks great though.
The Turbo runs into issues with the transfer case because it's got 500HP going through it. The lesser ones have no such issues.
Yeah, resale sucks because everyone thinks they're maintenance nightmares but mine has been much more reliable and cheap to maintain than my last Yukon. They drive better than any other SUV on the market (.88G's in the skidpad!) and it feels like it's carved out of a single block of steel. No rattles, no shakes over bumps, just quality construction.
I have 70k miles on my 2011 and it's only needed fluid changes and brake pads. Oil is every 10k miles and was around $200 with a tire rotation (so ~$60 every 3,000 miles). Brake pads are $300 but last a hellova long time. The only issue with the V6 is that the water pump tends to go around 75k miles (according to internet forums), and is about $600 to replace with labor. Mine was checked at the 70k service and still looks great though.
The Turbo runs into issues with the transfer case because it's got 500HP going through it. The lesser ones have no such issues.
Yeah, resale sucks because everyone thinks they're maintenance nightmares but mine has been much more reliable and cheap to maintain than my last Yukon. They drive better than any other SUV on the market (.88G's in the skidpad!) and it feels like it's carved out of a single block of steel. No rattles, no shakes over bumps, just quality construction.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 11:52 am
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:17 am to Carson123987
quote:
Fastest depreciating luxury SUV on the market. No thanks.
For 35K this is an incredible buy (if you are 100% dead set on getting a cayenne or similar luxury SUV).
35k Cayenne's on TrueCar are 2 years older and have at least quadruple the mileage this one has.
shite, the cheapest 2014 Cayenne with sub 20k miles on TrueCar is 45k with 13k miles.
There must be something seriously wrong with the car referenced in the OP if he's willing to accept 35k for it. He's about 10k lower than the bottom end of the market.
ETA: KBB, which is notoriously low imo, has the private party value of a FAIR (worst) condition 2014 Cayenne with 16k miles at 39.5k.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 11:20 am
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:44 am to Tigeralum2008
quote:
$500 oil changes! Frick that. There's a ton of youtube vids out there to DIY
This is pretty normal for luxury vehicles like mercedes, bmw, porche, etc. First off, its not worth it to change it yourself and possibly void a warranty. But most importantly most people that buy new or lease luxury vehicles are not changing their own oil.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:58 am to Tigeralum2008
quote:
Why the hell would I want to "feel" Louisiana roads?
And you completely didn't understand what I posted.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:25 pm to foj1981
I got my wife one two years ago as her mom car before our son was born. Favorite SUV we've had to date (outside of Jeep's, but they're more for fun vs daily driving). Maintenance isn't bad at all, and less than Mercedes, etc that we've had. I liked it so much, I got a Panamera afterwards and since traded it for a 911 turbo S. They're built like tanks, drive incredibly, have all the creature comforts you could want, etc. They don't depreciate that bad, but only if you order them right. Porsche add-ons can kill you and really jack the MSRP up. If you're concerned with depreciation, order a base model without all the extras and you can get out of it with a minimal loss. Dealerships are bad about loading them up to make more money. There's very few that are ordered closer to stock, so when you want to sell people will be lining up to buy.
I would tell him to jump on it and not look back. He'll love it.
I would tell him to jump on it and not look back. He'll love it.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:46 pm to matthew25
quote:
I passed on the vehicle and stayed American.
If you still want a premium ride, but don't want to pay out the nose for mainenance, consider Lexus or Infiniti as well (though I'm loving the look of the new Lincoln Continental).
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:51 pm to VABuckeye
quote:
And you completely didn't understand what I posted.
I actually did but also saw it as an opportunity to crack on Louisiana's shite roads
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:03 pm to foj1981
apparently all the brain surgeons on here commenting on depreciation didn't read the OP. what is so hard to understand about '14
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